The Marvel Cinematic Universe (MCU)

Edgar Wright left through the production of Ant Man and that turned out well. Obviously, this being the MCU, any and all problems are going to be drastically enhanced when they get leaked.
 
Why Blade is being pinpointed is because the film was announced 3 years ago. They come up with a 90 page script after years of development? They dropped the ball on that big time.
 
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Eh. I don’t know if I necessarily buy this idea that Feige is spread too thin per se. It’s a criticism that people have been absolutely gagging to apply to him for years now. He’s long since stepped away from running Marvel singlehandedly. The entirety of Phase 4 has been overseen on the day to day by Feige’s sub-producers onset while Feige takes care of the bigger picture.

There’s definitely a quality control problem though and it’s clear these Disney+ shows are being forced upon them because they’ll keep the viewers subscribed but this Blade situation just seems like a case of the crew they assembled just not working out.

They’ve had great success in the last hiring independent/TV creatives and they’ve usually risen to the challenge, but I think this might be case where the talent didn’t quite deliver. The former director had only one (well received) independent movie to his name, and the writer hadn’t written one feature film before despite her accolades. This is a passion project for Mahershala too, so the usual ‘work is out along the way’ method wasn’t going to cut it.
 
Okay but we're still getting the film.

These MCU shows are simply waning.
I would rather have a piece of drivel that is at least short, sweet and delivers in some manner. A movie is perfect in that sense.

In my opinion the MCU shows that have truly delivered are the character studies: Wandavision, Falcon + Winter Soldier and to a lessor extent Loki and Ms Marvel. The studio should continue doing shows like this. The rest should have been done as movies.
 
These MCU shows are simply waning.
I would rather have a piece of drivel that is at least short, sweet and delivers in some manner. A movie is perfect in that sense.

In my opinion the MCU shows that have truly delivered are the character studies: Wandavision, Falcon + Winter Soldier and to a lessor extent Loki and Ms Marvel. The studio should continue doing shows like this. The rest should have been done as movies.

Falcon And The Winter Soldier and Loki delivering?
 
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Yeah I’ve liked all the shows so far! The only one that really just didn’t translate well was Falcon And The Winter Solider.
I swear it’s always the same complaints people have watching tv shows, I’ve never understood it. They’re too long, they’re too short, they’re too much filler etc. For me, they’ve all done what they’re supposed to do! Which is highlight characters that, most likely, would be relegated to supporting cast or even worse not seen at all.
If you don’t like the show, it’s pretty simple, just don’t watch it. Pick and choose, everything isn’t essential to the overall story, no matter how much they might want us to think it is.
This isn’t me saying they’re perfect by the way, there’s plenty room for improvement! Just like there is with the films. Personally I’ve much preferred the shows this phase over the films.
 
I watched Captain Marvel again last night and that final rush of her coming into her powers makes me emotional every time.

It’s so jarring that she had this huge build-up and then we’ve only seen her in 10 minutes of Endgame since. I know there have been release dates juggled around due to covid, so I’m not sure how much sooner The Marvels was supposed to have arrived, but it honestly kind of feels like they gave into the incels and abandoned her…

I’m doing a chronological timeline rewatch and fell asleep watching Iron Man straight after.
 
Yeah I definitely think they reconfigured her importance in the MCU moving forward. Or maybe it will just get started with The Marvels.
 
I really like the shows, including Moon Knight. I have hope for Blade, because I really want it to be good, especially if it leans into a darker tone. I feel like it could end up getting pushed back because of all of this though, but we'll see.
And I've said it before but I'll say it again: the constant shitting on Phase 4 - not just here but apparently everywhere - is weird to me. I feel like it's been great and is one of the most exciting phases of the MCU, but it seems like most people have hated, disliked, or been very neutral on nearly everything that's come out post-WandaVision. And I don't know if it's because that was just so mind-blowingly amazing that everyone raised their expectations and were disappointed, or if it was something else but I don't think there's been this major drop in quality after phase 3 like so many people seem to think. It's weird to me. But again, maybe it just me and my easily pleased self that feels this way.
 
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I really like the shows, including Moon Knight. I have hope for Blade, because I really want it to be good, especially if it leans into a darker tone. I feel like it could end up getting pushed back because of all of this though, but we'll see.
And I've said it before but I'll say it again: the constant shitting on Phase 4 - not just here but apparently everywhere - is weird to me. I feel like it's been great and is one of the most exciting phases of the MCU, but it seems like most people have hated, disliked, or been very neutral on nearly everything that's come out post-WandaVision. And I don't know if it's because that was just so mind-blowingly amazing that everyone raised their expectations and were disappointed, or if it was something else but I don't think there's been this major drop in quality after phase 3 like so many people seem to think. It's weird to me. But again, maybe it just me and my easily pleased self that feels this way.

I feel like people want the pay off they were getting in Phase 3 but they’re not getting it. I compare Phase 4 to Phase 1 to be honest, and in that sense, it’s doing great!
 
I feel like people want the pay off they were getting in Phase 3 but they’re not getting it. I compare Phase 4 to Phase 1 to be honest, and in that sense, it’s doing great!
I think that's exactly it too. And same! Because that makes sense. They need to rebuild post-Endgame and I think they're doing a great job of it.
 
I feel like people want the pay off they were getting in Phase 3 but they’re not getting it. I compare Phase 4 to Phase 1 to be honest, and in that sense, it’s doing great!

Could be. In that sense, I do think fresh takes like 'Shang-Chi' and 'Eternals' are easily my favourite phase 4 movies. Yet those aren't the ones that made big money like 'No Way Home', 'Doctor Strange 2' and even 'Thor 4' which I consider all to be lesser outings by Marvel Studios. (I know covid is partially to blame, but still.)
 
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