The Miley Cyrus Discography Rate Part 1: WINNER ANNOUNCED! FINISHED!
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Then why'd you give them lower scores precious?
Same here! The first time I found out Hazey's straight, I wanted to hug him. Now I wanna hug @Maki. I'm just glad people like them exist.
And that sucks, I'm sorry you went through that. I loved pop music wayyyyy before I ever knew I like guys.
P!nk is an icon and I'm Not Dead is one of the best albums of the century. I will die on that hill.
And yeah, she's a huuuge k-pop fan, while I'm still learning the basics and need to explore the genre.
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I'm so so happy about this.
Now of course, it’s your turn to speak up. Although most of you didn't have much to say. We might have proven @phily693's (10) point with this: Such an underrated jam. Although this feels and sounds the least Hannah out of everything on the first album. Sorry dddd. And I think I get what you mean but I'm not sure. Finally we have quite a few people who know where I'm coming from. @DJHazey (4) makes a comparison to one of the most loved decades of pop music: Has a bit of 'late 80s party song' in its DNA, but whatever it style of music it sounds like, it ultimately fails for me. Agreed. @M24 (6) has a perfect comment: A bit repetitive for my liking. Not that I didn't bop to it as a kid (or bop to it guiltily every now and then), but there are better alternatives in Hannah's repertoire. Pretty much exactly this. Thank you. Finally, lowest scorer @savilizabeths (3) has never been here for it: As a kid I really didn’t like this song. Like at all. Perhaps those ill feelings have just stayed with my into adulthood. Something about the vocal mixing doesn’t vibe with me. The chorus is kinda just really annoying to me? The shouted vocals are…just no. I guess I’ll just never be a fan of this one. Yes! Exactly! It's the chorus!
The music video:
(Pajama party!)
The performance from The Best Of Both Worlds Concert:
(Like I said, it goes awf.)
And the version from the remix album:
(Holy shit this is actually pretty fucking great, and might even be...better?)
Finally, one my favorite Jamie Houston co-writes:
#88 - Pumpin' Up The Party: 6.03
(Found online)
Highest: 2x10s (@phily693 @Ana Raquel) 1x9 (Me)
Lowest: 1x2.5 (@Mirwais Ahmadzaï) 1x3 (@savilizabeths)
My Score: 9
Favorite Lyric: Parents might not understand
(The mantra of every kid ever at some point.)
Trajectory
5 Voters: #68
10 Voters: #80
15 Voters: #67
19 Voters: #88
Total Points: 90.5
Pumpin’ Up The Party was written and produced by Jamie Houston for the first season soundtrack Hannah Montana. Jamie has written songs for quite a few Disney soundtracks, so it’s no surprise he worked on the Hannah one. The song was first featured in the Hannah episode “She’s A Supersneak”, which actually has a more important song in it, so I’ll wait to give you too many details on it, but I will say it’s about Miley sneaking out to the movies with Lilly and Oliver. If you know the episode, please don’t talk too much about it below, I don’t wanna spoil the future write-up. Pumpin’ Up The Party is probably one of Hannah’s most recognizable songs. It went to #81 on the Billboard Hot 100, and was performed multiple times, most notably on the Best Of Both Worlds Concert in support of Hannah Montana 2: Meet Miley Cyrus (which the picture I chose is from.) This is honestly probably the most prolific song we’ve lost so far, in the context of Hannah’s and Miley’s discography anyway. And it’s because of its “classic Hannah” status that I was afraid this would do extremely well. This has always been one of my “least favorite” Hannah songs, even when I was a kid, and I always knew why too: That damn chorus. Sure it’s “fun” but it’s so repetitive and grating at times. I know it’s supposed to just be a fun party song, but the verses and the groovy production – especially with that electric guitar - are so fucking good honestly, and I wish they had included a chorus to match it. I mentioned she performed this on the tour, and I remember thinking when I watched the premiere of the concert movie on Disney Channel at a friend’s house cause I couldn’t watch it at home (this friend is no longer a friend BTW) and it got to this song, I remember being disappointed despite bopping with my sister and friend. I even remember thinking “She couldn’t have performed something else?” and I’m pretty sure I had wished for something like Who Said or If We Were A Movie (which I’m honestly still so pissed she didn’t do that song at all.) All of this said, I now maintain that this actually goes off quite a bit live, and now really enjoy the performance. It’s times like this where I wish I could spread out my scores a little more, cause if this had gone too far, I would’ve hated myself. Thankfully, some of y’all came through with the low scores and prevented that from happening. This is absolutely the correct first cut from Hannah Montana, y’all are so good at this. Although it is the first of the optional songs to cross 90 total points. The only comment I could find from a critic is from AllMusic, who said that the song is a “slight stumble…that ends up going nowhere” and I have to say I’m inclined to agree. (Found online)
Highest: 2x10s (@phily693 @Ana Raquel) 1x9 (Me)
Lowest: 1x2.5 (@Mirwais Ahmadzaï) 1x3 (@savilizabeths)
My Score: 9
Favorite Lyric: Parents might not understand
(The mantra of every kid ever at some point.)
Trajectory
5 Voters: #68
10 Voters: #80
15 Voters: #67
19 Voters: #88
Total Points: 90.5
Now of course, it’s your turn to speak up. Although most of you didn't have much to say. We might have proven @phily693's (10) point with this: Such an underrated jam. Although this feels and sounds the least Hannah out of everything on the first album. Sorry dddd. And I think I get what you mean but I'm not sure. Finally we have quite a few people who know where I'm coming from. @DJHazey (4) makes a comparison to one of the most loved decades of pop music: Has a bit of 'late 80s party song' in its DNA, but whatever it style of music it sounds like, it ultimately fails for me. Agreed. @M24 (6) has a perfect comment: A bit repetitive for my liking. Not that I didn't bop to it as a kid (or bop to it guiltily every now and then), but there are better alternatives in Hannah's repertoire. Pretty much exactly this. Thank you. Finally, lowest scorer @savilizabeths (3) has never been here for it: As a kid I really didn’t like this song. Like at all. Perhaps those ill feelings have just stayed with my into adulthood. Something about the vocal mixing doesn’t vibe with me. The chorus is kinda just really annoying to me? The shouted vocals are…just no. I guess I’ll just never be a fan of this one. Yes! Exactly! It's the chorus!
The music video:
(Pajama party!)
The performance from The Best Of Both Worlds Concert:
(Like I said, it goes awf.)
And the version from the remix album:
(Holy shit this is actually pretty fucking great, and might even be...better?)
Finally, one my favorite Jamie Houston co-writes:
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YOU ALL CAME THROUGH! I remember talking with our lovely host when I first scored this and bitching about it. It’s just...not good.
ALSO STRUT IS A DAMN BOP!
ALSO STRUT IS A DAMN BOP!
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When I found out how early it'd drop out, it was so hard not to tell you.
And yes. Yes it is.
Also, our next elimination will actually be 86, because we have a tie! In fact, I'm pretty sure it's our only tie in the entire rate.
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May have underrated in an inconsistent attempt to diversify my scores... but not upset about it. My Hannah scores are janky because I didn't care for the soundtracks much besides HM2.
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Dddd I noticed and I have plans to yell at you in the future, dont worry.
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Thanks for the info! I guess that explains a lot. Is there anything from that period worth listening to? I don't even like all tracks on The Fame, so I guess Gaga's unreleased are probably more of a miss than a hit for me.
Because I wanted to be more sympathetic to the HM3 songs I hadn't heard hehe. Anyway, one of the songs I referred to just left, so I guess it all went right in the end.
I'll have to listen to a P!nk album for once in my life hahaha. I know most of her singles but I admit I never went through the trouble of listening to one of her whole albums from the first to last songs. So I didn't know this one that @Maki shared with us.
And I'm just as much of a newcomer to kpop too. But I've already listened to Red Velvet's and Twice's singles and most of them are bops (I'm now in the process of delving into their albums).
Now that I have the chance to talk about it, I'm surprised by the (apparent?) lack of love for kpop in this forum (it's separate as if it was a different genre haha). And even boy bands get dragged there (when they're pretty good too, hasn't anyone listened to "Spring Day" or "Blood, Sweat and Tears" by BTS?). So I don't know, maybe kpop is not for everybody.
Yes, glad it's gone too. It indeed starts off well, the 80s groove is nice and all... but that chorus is so made of nothing. I was worried I was being too harsh when I scored it, but I guess you all agree it's pretty basic.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but there's never been a Cheetah Girls rate, has there? It'd be cool to have one! They don't have that many songs, so it could be done fairly quickly. Though it would be hard to pick an 11 between "Girl Power", "The Party's Just Begun" and "Strut" too obviously.
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Ahhhh okay makes sense.
Listen to I'm Not Dead as soon as possible! Also Try This and Funhouse. I'm a P!nk stan, so if you have any questions feel free to ask.
I'm not sure, but I feel like there's a lot of love for k-pop in its sub forum and in charts and rates, particularly the song chart @ohnostalgia does every month (sorry for tagging you in here) but @savilizabeths would know better than me. As for boy bands...well, male vocalists in general aren't well loved around here.
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I would absolutely be willing to run a Cheetah Girls rate at some point in the future of no one else does. They have three full albums if you count the soundtracks. Plus the Christmas album, and a few extras. It'd be a lot of fun. Cinderella and like half of the second movie soundtrack would be such strong 11 contenders for me.
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OKAY SO
The main reason as far as I can see that K-pop is mostly kept in it's subforum is because it's such a wide diverse culture and community that it literally warrants an entire seperate section. I honestly suggest venturing in there because we're like a ridiculous little family and everyone is very welcoming and willing to help and educate. We have our own seperate charts every month which are full of great recommendations for anyone trying to get into Kpop. PS. I also recommend if you're wanting to get into the genre and have time to do a rate, participate in the SOTY (song of the year) rate going on right now. Bops upon bops!
Males don't tend to fare well on this forum as it is. A shame sometimes but a fact. Mostly it's all in good fun. Most of the mainstream public is very focussed on Kpop boy groups (which can sometimes be annoying when you stan TWICE and just want merch but all your local stores have is BTS). There are a lot of jokes in the subforum about dragging male Kpop artists but I wouldn't take it too seriously. People have their tastes and opinions. I love BTS and there are definitely people in the subforum who love boy groups too. Our main host of charts and end of year rates (dear @Slice of Life unnie, sorry for tagging you here) is a big supporter of boy groups rights and always has awesome recommendations.
Also, Blood Sweat and Tears + Spring Day are two of my favourite BTS tracks so you have taste already! If you need recommendations, venture into the subforum or just PM me because I love talking about Kpop to anyone who's curious.
Funhouse is the one whose singles I like the most, so I should probably start there! Should do I'm Not Dead after that! Should I expect them to have fillers or are they pretty consistent?
Yeah, for sure there's a lot of love in the subforum, but it seems smaller in comparison to the main forum. Or maybe it's just my impression. And I shouldn't be surprised that male vocalists aren't loved more hahaha I tanked the Miley+Jonas ballad... but still, I feel like I can enjoy songs from male vocalists too (in the case of the Jonases, I adore "SOS", a real bop).
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I echo this sentiment. We're goofy as hell and super duper friendly!
Wow, thank you so much for such an in-depth explanation!!!
The SOTY rate sounds indeed like a good opportunity to start getting into the genre. I've been listening to songs from the most "mainstream groups" (I guess RV and Twice could be considered as such), but I guess kpop is more than that!
And I understand what you mean about BTS. For sure it seems to dominate the conversation around kpop in the western media and GP. In fact, that sort of discouraged me from even giving kpop a chance (of course, later I found out BTS had their bops too). So I can partly understand the hate, even if it seems a bit extreme sometimes.
But anyway, if you say not everyone is like that here, then I'm more than ok trying to be a part of the PJ kpop community. I was also considering other forums but they seem more intimidating in size and I don't want to be part of stan wars (I guess that doesn't happen here, or at least I haven't seen that in the general forum).
Thanks for the recommendations offer too, I'd love to get some as I think we have a similar taste from what I've seen so far in this rate (except for your overwhelming love for the Billy/Miley duets hahaha mine was a bit more restrained).
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This mention of Strut!!!! I've been to Barcelona once and while I was there, this song was playing in my head. All the time. A lifechanging experience.
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Any excuse to talk about Kpop honestly.
It is a really good chance. It helped me broaden my horizons last year when my knowledge of things was a little more limited. There is so much to discover and we have a really good lineup of songs this year with quite a few RV and TWICE tracks in there. TWICE really dominated this year. I highly recommend checking out the list even if you don't feel like participating. But if you do, the more the merrier.
BTS are very talented guys but they do get the most attention which can be frustrating. Plus, their fans are often kinda awful. People will drag them a lot in the subforum but hey, it is what it is. I wouldn't even say BTS are overrated, Perhaps just overexposed. People forget that there is so much more to discover in Kpop besides those seven boys. But they have some damn bops! And they're very cute.
You'd be so welcome! We love when new people join the ranks. We don't do stan wars in our corner of the internet. Any dragging of each other is all in good playful fun. Everyone acts like an adult and shares their love of Kpop music and idols. It's not too intimidating because there's a core group who you start to recognise and get to know pretty quick. It's nice.
100%. I have both male and female recommendations alike. Including some amazing TWICE b-sides because they have many many bops. And yeah well, I'm sappy so I like the Billy/Miley duets haha.
Ok, I'll take your word for it then :P
No way Burnin' Up is better than SOS, omg!! @savilizabeths what do you have to say about this, this is a Jonas Brothers blasphemy!!(? In a hypothetical (obviously it'd never happen in this forum haha) JB rate, my 11 would go to SOS, or When You Look Me in the Eyes if I'm feeling particularly sensitive.
I'll say hi there if you say it first dddddd #teenagemindset
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