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The PJXtra Vault

Discussion in 'Charts, rates etc' started by WoW73, Jul 25, 2020.

  1. Yes, not a very original idea, but here it is, the PJXtra Vault thread....

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    Welkom!
    Bienvenue!
    Karibu!
    Välkommen!
    Bienvenido!
    어서 오십시오!
    Καλώς ήρθες!
    Tervetuloa!
    ようこそ!
    Dobrodošli!!!


    PJXtra is an online song contest in the vein of PJSC, PJRetro and PJ00s, but with a twist: you can submit a 21st century non-English song, which:
    • is sung in any language other than that of the winning song from the most recent PJXtra contest and features less than 20% approximately of English lyrics.
    • hasn’t charted in the top 3 anywhere in the world and isn’t a Eurovision Song Contest entry (non-qualifying national final songs are eligible).
    • is performed by an artist with 30 pages or less of dedicated discussion on the Popjustice forum & didn’t participate in the most recent PJXtra competition.
    • hasn’t previously been entered into either PJSC, PJ00s or PJXtra.
    • if it is a cover version, is subject to certain criteria including if the song being covered is already famous/successful.
    A winning artist in PJXtra is banned for the next 5 rounds.
    As stated above, a winning language is banned for the next round only.

    Above rules have been tweaked a little over the past few rounds, and some rounds have a special theme, but above are the 'basic' rules for each round.

    Each round, once the list of successful songs is published, you listen to them all, choose your favourite ten and allocate points as follows:

    12 points : your favourite song of the contest
    10 points : 2nd place
    8 points: 3rd place
    7 points
    6 points
    5 points
    4 points
    3 points
    2 points
    1 point

    Please keep your ballots secret, sharing them only with the host(/s) who will reveal the results once voting closes. You are unable to vote for your entry and any non-voters have their final total halved!

    The aim is to have PJXtra run 6 times a year, with rounds ending in the first week of:
    February
    April
    June
    August
    October
    December: Annual Easy Round: the top 3 rule does not apply, except for the official UK & US charts
     
    Last edited: Jul 31, 2021
  2. The contests // Les concours // Yarışmalar // Tävlingarna // Die Wettbewerbe

    PJXtra started as a one-off contest, and was inspired by the Eurovision Song Contest, and the side contest of PJSC round 80, Other Tongue, which was won by @saviodxl with Anitta - Venena

    PJXtra 1
    Dates: December 1st 2019 - January 2nd 2020
    Host: @WoW73
    Number of participants: 34
    Number of languages: 15
    Winner: Frida Gold - Wovon Sollen Wir Träumen by @Sprockrooster
    Winning language: German
    Veto panel: @berserkboi @Maki @Disco Blister

    PJXtra 2
    Dates: March 16th - April 11th 2020
    Host: @Sprockrooster
    Number of participants: 28
    Number of languages: 18
    Winner: Simmy - Umahlalela by @londonrain
    Winning language: Zulu
    Veto panel: @berserkboi @Maki @Disco Blister

    PJXtra 3
    Dates: May 11 - June 5th 2020
    Hosts: @Gasur & @If You Go
    Number of participants: 20
    Number of languages: 15
    Winner: Krista Siegfrids - 1995 by @Doodvid
    Winning language: Swedish
    Veto panel: @berserkboi @Maki @Disco Blister

    PJXtra 4
    Dates: July 27th - August 16th 2020
    Hosts: @Doodvid & @WoW73
    Number of participants: 37
    Number of languages: 20
    Winner: Javiera Mena - Corazón astral by @klow
    Winning language: Spanish
    Veto panel: @berserkboi @Maki @soratami

    PJXtra 5
    Dates: September 4th - October 2nd 2020
    Host: @klow
    Number of participants: 33
    Number of languages: 16
    Winner: Anna Sedokova - Пока Милый by @If You Go
    Winning language: Russian
    Veto panel: @berserkboi @Maki @Doodvid

    PJXtra 6
    Dates: October 31st 2020 - December 4th 2020
    Host: @If You Go
    Number of participants: 34
    Number of languages: 17
    Winner: 9Muses - Wild by @Hurricane Drunk
    Winning language: Korean
    Veto panel: @berserkboi @Maki @soratami

    PJXtra 7
    Theme: none, there is a travel side-theme
    Dates: January 1st 2021 - February 7th 2021
    Hosts: @WoW73 & @Doodvid
    Number of participants: 34
    Number of languages: 18
    Winner: Colonia - Doza by @Ana Raquel
    Winning language: Croatian
    Veto panel: @berserkboi @Maki @Doodvid

    PJXtra 8
    Dates: March 5th 2021 - April 12th 2021
    Hosts: @Ana Raquel
    Number of participants:30
    Number of languages: 20
    Winner: ABAO - kinakaian Mu Qin De She Tou by @Ana Raquel
    Winning language: Paiwan
    Veto panel: @berserkboi @Maki @Doodvid

    PJXtra 9
    Dates: May 3rd 2021 - June 6th 2021
    Hosts: @Ana Raquel
    Number of participants: 27
    Number of languages: 14
    Winner: Jannika B - Matkalla Manalaan by @Hudweiser
    Winning language: Finnish
    Veto panel: @berserkboi @Doodvid & @Maki

    PJXtra 10
    Dates: July 2nd 2021 - July 31st 2021
    Hosts: @Hudweiser
    Number of participants: 29
    Number of languages: 12
    Winner: Madame Monsieur - Cœurs abîmés by @Derek
    Winning language: French
    Veto panel: @berserkboi @Doodvid & @Maki

    PJXtra 11
    Dates: Early September 2021 - Early October 2021
    Hosts: TBC
    Number of participants: TBA
    Number of languages: TBA
    Winner: TBA
    Winning language: TBA
    Veto panel: TBA
     
    Last edited: Aug 2, 2021
  3. The participants // Osalejad // De deelnemers // Uczestnicy // Οι συμμετέχοντες

    The following forum users have participated in rounds of PJXtra thus far (rounds 1-10):

    @Alenko: PJXtra 1, 4, 5, 7, 8
    @Ana Raquel: PJXtra 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10
    @BeingNormal: PJXtra 4, 5, 6, 10
    @berserkboi: PJXtra 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10
    @CasuallyCrazed: PJXtra 1
    @citoig: PJXtra 2, 4, 6, 7
    @cleosnatchra: PJXtra 4, 8
    @Conan: PJXtra 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10
    @CorgiCorgiCorgi: PJXtra 1
    @Cotton Park: PJXtra 2, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10
    @Cutlery: PJXtra 2
    @daninternational: PJXtra 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10
    @Derek: PJXtra 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 10
    @Disco Blister: PJXtra 1
    @DominoDancing: PJXtra 1, 2, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10
    @Doodvid: PJXtra 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10
    @eccentricsimply: PJXtra 4
    @Empty Shoebox: PJXtra 1
    @EscapismIsAnotherPrison: PJXtra 1, 4, 5, 6, 7
    @evilsin: PJXtra 4
    @Filippa: PJXtra 1, 2, 3, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10
    @Gasur: PJXtra 1, 2, 3, 4
    @Hudweiser: PJXtra 9, 10
    @Hurricane Drunk: PJXtra 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10
    @If You Go: PJXtra 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10
    @iheartpoptarts: PJXtra 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10
    @imaduck: PJXtra 4, 5, 7, 8, 10
    @Island: PJXtra 1
    @Jeffo: PJXtra 6, 7
    @Kadebostany: PJXtra 4
    @klow: PJXtra 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10
    @livefrommelbs: PJXtra 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10
    @londonrain: PJXtra 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10
    @Lost Boy/@swim: PJXtra 1, 2, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10
    @Maki: PJXtra 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10
    @Music Is Death: PJXtra 4, 5, 6, 7
    @nnnumb: PJXtra 1
    @Phonetics Girl: PJXtra 1, 2, 3, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10
    @pop3blow2: PJXtra 5, 6, 7, 8
    @Reboot: PJXtra 1, 2
    @Rie Runway: PJXtra 1
    @RUNAWAY: PJXtra 2
    @saviodxl: PJXtra 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10
    @SlowGinFizzzz: PJXtra 1, 6
    @soratami: PJXtra 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10
    @Sprockrooster: PJXtra 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10
    @TéléDex: PJXtra 1, 2, 4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10
    @Tiger Suit: PJXtra 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10
    @ufint: PJXtra 4, 5, 7
    @unnameable: PJXtra 9
    @Untouchable Ace: PJXtra 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9
    @vague: PJXtra 1, 2, 4, 5, 6, 7
    @WoW73: PJXtra 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10
    @WowWowWowWow: PJXtra 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10
    @ysev: PJXtra 4
    @Zar-Unity: PJXtra 1, 2


    Medals Tally: (up to date to round 10)
    Yes, we had 10 rounds, and 12 bronze medalists due to two ties

    Gold - Silver - Bronze - Contestant
    2 - 0 - 0 - @Ana Raquel
    1 - 1 - 1 - @If You Go
    1 - 1 - 0 - @Hurricane Drunk
    1 - 0 - 2 - @Doodvid
    1 - 0 - 2 - @Derek
    1 - 0 - 1 - @londonrain
    1 - 0 - 0 - @klow
    1 - 0 - 0 - @Sprockrooster
    1 - 0 - 0 - @Hudweiser
    0 - 3 - 0 - @WoW73
    0 - 1 - 0 - @Reboot
    0 - 1 - 0 - @WowWowWowWow
    0 - 1 - 0 - @iheartpoptarts
    0 - 1 - 0 - @imaduck
    0 - 1 - 0 - @Cotton Park
    0 - 0 - 1 - @BeingNormal
    0 - 0 - 1 - @Gasur
    0 - 0 - 1 - @Music Is Death
    0 - 0 - 1 - @Phonetics Girl
    0 - 0 - 1 - @daninternational
    0 - 0 - 1 - @Untouchable Ace
     
    Last edited: Aug 2, 2021
  4. The songs // Les chansons // De liedjes // 曲 // Pesmi // השירים

    A list of all the entries in PJXtra (incl Other Tongue, round 'Zero") can be found here

    Spotify list for all rounds here


    The languages* // Les langues // Los idiomas // Языки // Tungumálin // Die tale

    *: I hope I got them all right below, if not, my apologies and no offense intended!

    Red: winning languages

    Arapahoe: PJXtra 9
    Bŭlgarski (Bulgarian): PJXtra 1, 6
    中文 (Chinese): PJXtra 6, 8, 9
    Dansk (Danish): PJXtra 2, 3, 4, 5, 9
    Deutsch (German): PJXtra 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9
    Earabia (Arabic): PJXtra 2, 4
    Eestlana (Estionian): PJXtra 7
    Elliniká (Greek): PJXtra 1, 3, 4, 7, 8
    Elvish: PJXtra 2
    Español (Spanish): PJXtra 1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 7, 8, 9
    Føroyskt: PJXtra 4
    Filipino: PJXtra 2
    Français (French): PJXtra 1, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9
    Gymraeg (Welsh): PJXtra 5
    עִברִית (Hebrew): PJXtra 4, 7, 8
    Hindee: PJXtra 4
    Hrvatski (Croatian): PJXtra 3, 7
    Íslenska (Icelandic): PJXtra 6
    Italiano: PJXtra 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8
    日本人 (Japanese): PJXtra 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9
    Kiswahili: PJXtra 4, 5
    한국어 (Korean): PJXtra 4, 5, 6, 8, 9
    Kmer: PJXtra 6
    Kreyòl: PJXtra 4, 8
    Latinam: PJXtra 2
    Lietuvis (Lithuanian): PJXtra 7, 8
    Magyar: PJXtra 1
    Moari: PJXtra-6
    Nederlands (Dutch): PJXtra 1, 5, 6, 9
    Nihongo: PJXtra 2
    Norsk (Norwegian): PJXtra 2, 8
    O'zbek: PJXtra 4
    Paiwan: PJXtra 8
    Polski (Polish): PJXtra 1, 2, 3, 5
    Português (Portugese): PJXtra 1, 2, 4, 6, 7
    Punjabi: PJXtra 8
    Pǔtōnghuà: PJXtra 2
    Română: PJXtra 3, 8
    Russkiy (Russian): PJXtra 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 9
    Sámi: PJXtra 9
    Samogitian: PJXtra 7
    Shona: PJXtra 7
    Shqiptar: PJXtra 1, 4
    Simlish: PJXtra 8
    Slovinčina: PJXtra 3
    Slovenský: PJXtra 1, 3
    Srpski (Serbian): PJXtra 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7
    Suomi (Finnish): PJXtra 1, 2, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9
    Svenska (Swedish): PJXtra 1, 2, 3, 6, 8
    Thyi (Thai): PJXtra 7
    Türk (Turkish): PJXtra 5
    Türkmen: PJXtra 5
    Ukrayinsʹka (Ukrainian): PJXtra 3, 6, 7, 8
    Tiếng Việt (Vietnamese): PJXtra 6, 9
    Zulu: PJXtra 2, 9
     
    Last edited: Jul 18, 2021
  5. Suddenly those Bulgaria #1s and worldwide flops elsewhere are shook.
     
  6. Yay!

    Just to reiterate, this criteria applies to the next contest running after PJXtra 4.
     
  7. Is there a website out there that lets you search a song to see whether it's charted anywhere in the world? (Like, besides Wikipedia?)
     
  8. londonrain

    londonrain Staff Member

    Acharts.co is the best I can think of, but it doesn’t go all that far back. I think it’s good for the 2010s, though.
     
  9. Thanks so much, this is super helpful for the countries it covers!
     
  10. londonrain

    londonrain Staff Member

    Hey, if you can’t find the chart positions for a particular song, the panel probably won’t be able to find them either...
     
  11. Shhhhhhhhhhhhhh! No loopholes here *nervous blink*
     
  12. Also, I assume this does not apply to bubbling under charts?
     
  13. We’re talking official singles charts - eg. the equivalent of the Billboard Hot 100 which usually combines physical sales/streams/downloads. And it doesn’t apply to iTunes charts either (are they even a thing anymore?)
     
  14. londonrain

    londonrain Staff Member

    A lot of countries don’t even have proper official charts, though - many of them are just radio charts or download-only charts. It’s only really the bigger markets that have specifically compiled charts that aim to accurately reflect sales and streams across the country.
     
  15. In that case it’ll be at the discretion of the veto panel I guess although the most prescient advice might be to avoid submitting what would most likely be classed as ‘big hits’ or super successful songs (maybe Youtube views etc might come in to play at that point?)
     
    Last edited: Jul 25, 2020
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  17. londonrain

    londonrain Staff Member

    This feels like it's... doing a lot. Who cares about a song that was a big hit in, say, India or China and would have racked up tons of views from those countries, when nobody based in those countries actually votes in PJXtra?
     
  18. Maybe so but it’s just one way of attempting to create a criteria that can be applied to any song from around the world. It’s not perfect by any means but it’s what the panel have agreed on to test out. It’ll no doubt be tweaked along the way.
     
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  19. Great that a new vault for PJ Song Contest is opened. But where's Japanese on the language list?
     
  20. I usually visit dutchcharts.nl or ultratop.be - not sure of the architecture behind the scenes as to why all the sites work together, but it will usually include any chart positions for Belgium, the Netherlands, France, Italy, Spain, Portugal, Germany, Austria, Switzerland, Sweden, Denmark, Norway, Finland, Australia and New Zealand. For example, the page for “Shallow.” Although it looks like @londonrain’s suggestion is a better one.
     
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