The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills (S14)

It was so obvious the whole trip how much Garcelle actually cares for Sutton. Between that and the scene with Boz and her daughter, I was touched. It was a really strong episode overall.

As much as she is having a 10/10 season, Dorit telling Boz and Erika about her call with PK was the first time I really started to get tired of her. Girl last episode you said he wasn't a good father / you didn't recognize him and now you are playing dumb! Thank goodness Boz never took her foot off PK's throat.
 
I’m sure Garcelle is no stranger to having to navigate uncomfortable situations with white people, but damn, I have to give her so many props for how she handled every interaction she had with Reba. Every conversation, weird jab, slight, etc was met with such kindness, understanding, patience, and care - probably well more than Reba should have gotten. She actually probably made Reba more comfortable (than she deserved!) by how she handled everything. Like, she’s a saint for that one. Whew.
Yes. She really is such a class act. I adore her. Weirdly... I was thinking about how she would have dealt with Ramona Singer if she somehow ended up being brought into Real Housewives of New York.
 
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The stuff about Teddi is devastating. She must be terrified, I feel so badly for her and her family and friends. I really hope the vitriol she receives from the fandom dissipates because she deserves love and support now.
Yeah really fucking irritates me when people have to caveat or prelude condolences (E.g. "i'm not her biggest fan but my heart goes out to her" etc.)

Like cancer sucks and nobody besides Donald Trump ddd deserves to go through that, especially when you've got small kids.
 
This week’s episode was fantastic, Sutton was obviously the MVP. Kyle always talks about how she gives so much to the show and bares her soul, but Sutton is out here doing the work and giving us some of the most compelling and riveting episodes of RHOBH I’ve seen in years.

It looks like it’s business as usual next week. Seeing how pro-Sutton this week’s episode was, I am wondering how the edit will suddenly focus on her being taken down by the rest of the group for the 18th time.
 
This episode was fascinating for me. It felt like a breath of fresh air as others have said. If Kyle were to let herself get close to Sutton and Garcelle, they would nurture her and care for her in a way she probably hasn't gotten in her life. But I don't know if Kyle will let herself have that level of emotional intimacy.

I feel like, just from the distance of viewing, Sutton's mom has no capacity for love in her. She is sadistic in the games she plays with Sutton; acting one way with her brother and another way with Sutton. I feel just from a casual distance that it's innate and not trauma-related, but I realize we're getting a sanitized snapshot of a whole person and I don't wanna or need to diagnose anybody. But it makes for interesting conversation. Would love to know your thoughts @Mr.Arroz
 

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This episode was fascinating for me. It felt like a breath of fresh air as others have said. If Kyle were to let herself get close to Sutton and Garcelle, they would nurture her and care for her in a way she probably hasn't gotten in her life. But I don't know if Kyle will let herself have that level of emotional intimacy.

I feel like, just from the distance of viewing, Sutton's mom has no capacity for love in her. She is sadistic in the games she plays with Sutton; acting one way with her brother and another way with Sutton. I feel just from a casual distance that it's innate and not trauma-related, but I realize we're getting a sanitized snapshot of a whole person and I don't wanna or need to diagnose anybody. But it makes for interesting conversation. Would love to know your thoughts @Mr.Arroz
I mean, like you said, we're only privy to so much based on how the distance that's part of this viewing experience - but for me, my paternal grandmother was from Mississippi, born in 1939, so not too far off from Reba. Though I'm sure race colors much of the difference in experiences between them, my grandmother still exhibited the same "toughness" and cool, cutting sarcasm/humor that Reba has. She is right in that that era of development for girls, especially as they matured into mothers, wives, and beyond, didn't really necessarily allow them to nurture their emotional capacity for themselves or others. Love wasn't necessarily shown to others in the ways that we may receive now. So on that front, I can understand her framing. Especially saying "only Northerners do that" or something to that extent to Kyle re: the sugar in grits. She had a model that was placed before her and she stuck to it because it was tried, true, and inherited from those that made her. People are often predictable in that sense.

However, her saying that she was her father's favorite child and it made her tough/determined/etc., I wonder how that factored into the relationship that she fashioned with Sutton because it was alluded to that Sutton had that same bonding with her father. So much of Southern familial structure can often stress the reverence of the male figure in the household, so it calls into question how much Reba's connection to her dad shaped her understanding and expectations of men, and how she might have interpreted the connection Sutton had to her father, who was also her husband. I see a woman so steadfast in what she chose to believe, accept, and follow, that turning from that model is unknown and likely uncomfortable. Her "toughness" is that idea of love given (in her eyes) simply because it is present even though mostly unspoken. It may be fair of Sutton to reflect on how not having that relationship with Sutton may have impacted Reba, too.

I don't know, just kinda thinking aloud. I see a lot of stuff at play but I just think she is a product of the cultural norms that shaped her, as well as the navigation of dynamics that she maybe wasn't always a deciding factor in. I will say though that she had me cackling much like my nana would with how blunt and to-the-point she was. Their relationship is rather fascinating to see - they carry so much of each other within one another.
 
Sutton getting her own bottle episode?? The Sluttons continue to be fed! I was getting notes of Jordan Peele, Greta Gerwig and a dose of Mommie Dearest.

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I have to hand it to Garcelle and even Kyle for their excellent supporting performances. I even found Erika tolerable when she's not up Kyle's arse.
 

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