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The Reissue Thread!

Discussion in 'Comeback corner' started by Eric Generic, Oct 19, 2009.

  1. …Belinda Carlisle, The Bangles, Kylie, T’Pau, Tanita Tikaram, Fuzzbox, Kim Wilde, Lisa Stansfield, Salt N Pepa, Transvision Vamp, Eurythmics, Tiffany, Debbie Gibson, Bananarama, Cyndi, Whitney, Gloria, Debbie Harry, Tracy Chapman, Alison Moyet, Paula Abdul, Martika, Cher, Roxette, Neneh Cherry, Black Box, Vanessa Williams, Mel & Kim, Vanessa Paradis, Mica Paris, Enya, Björk, Texas, Shakespears Sister, Cathy Dennis, Technotronic, Soul II Soul, Adeva, Kirsty MacColl, Inner City, Sonia, Betty Boo, Lananeeneenoonoo…

    (Off the top of my head)

    OK so I’ve kinda laboured the point, but these female artist and female-led acts too all had huge hits or began their careers in the late eighties. Up the 80s women!
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  2. Aww, wonderful times!
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  3. There seems to be a general snobbery towards the late 80s and SAW seem to get the brunt of the blame for this, but I love those years, even though I didn’t personally experience them, the music is mostly great and I honestly wish I got to experience these years first hand, my singles collection would be vast.
    I remember that Gary Crowley compilation saying he only went up to 85 because he believed that was the true 80s and the quality instantly shifted in 86, or something like that.

    Also, random, but I find pop music in 1990 was more or less a continuation of the music from 89, so I like to think of it as an extension of a great decade.
  4. It is two eras though to me, I agree with Mr Crowley, pre and post 13th July 1985.
  5. That Mylene release has me going oui, mais non….mais oui? I’d almost rather keep collecting the CD singles.

    That recent set of album reissues was so close to being great. I’d wanted something like that for years, but…. a bonus disc of instrumentals? Le sigh.
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  6. There was a definite shift after 1985, I always tried to figure out "what went wrong" with it all (and why the public turned its back on so much of the music they'd liked before), but ultimately 86-89 is still the Eighties so I don't make those sort of cut off points with my own playlists and projects.
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  7. Indeed, it's a mystery.
  8. Interesting. I never really considered this before. Live Aid changed it all? Madonna going blond for True Blue in 1986?
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  9. For the type of music Gary Crowley champions, there is logic in his cut-off points.
    His Lost '80s Volume 2 just arrived yesterday and is a cracker like the first one.
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  10. A few years ago we went to an 80’s fancy dress party - my brother decked out in smiley t shirt, cap, glow sticks n whistles, I’d opted for baggy jeans, a mustard ‘of that age’ appropriate loose top and kangol hat - and the looks we got from people thinking we’d picked the wrong decade!
  11. I think that pre 85, though there were different tribes of music fan, it was still all viewed together and the compilations tend to reflect that. After that point, everything seemed to separate to pop, or indie, dance, rock etc - and compilations of the later period seem to be the same.
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  12. I was thinking whether the media had a part in that, but even in 87 Smash Hits had The Mission and Depeche Mode on the cover, Q magazine started with acts like Big Audio Dynamite and FGTH on theirs, RM treated the Hip Hop, Indie and Pop scenes as fairly as anyone. Maybe Radio and TV were more complicit. Did (pop) music just become too divisive of its own accord..through technology and cultural shifts (drugs, politics).

    Then you had the arrival of CD in 85/86, which initially created a sort of market of its own with certain acts being popular (and being promoted) on that medium, thus further splintering it all.

    For me, it's still Live Aid that was the catalyst for the biggest changes....and Band Aid (the record/event) itself. It demystified pop, took away too much of the artifice and escapism. Presented popstars as everymen (and women), working for good causes. It blew the insular, entertaining and imaginative little worlds of NME, Smash Hits etc apart.
  13. Not quite a fully formed thesis by any means; more a half baked gut response to the excellent question and the equally thoughtful responses so far. I wonder if it’s because pop became shinier, happier and ultra cynical at around that time - commercialism took over. Up till then, you could almost always draw a straight line of sorts between popular music and the society - be it blues, punk, rock, folk, new wave, or disco. Music from the late 80s seemed more (if not solely) concerned with commercial success and little else. Of course there was the odd exception (Tracy Chapman, U2, and Yazz (!!) come to mind) but that’s what they were, exceptions. Even greats such as Springsteen, Dylan and Young didn’t really have all that much to say during that time. We got big hair, shoulder pads, and even bigger videos. Perhaps that might have contributed to the perceived slight for music recorded between 1986 and 1989. That doesn’t mean the music was less enjoyable, but it does put a different spin on things. Feel free to poke holes at the theory, but I think there might be something in there.
  14. It's hard to pinpoint, and for once the blame can't be laid at the industry for indulging in self-fulfilling they would do in the 90s and beyond (R1's ageist agenda with the Bannister Years, The BRIT School, deliberately phasing out singles etc). The labels and the media continued to offer up the acts and the music which were so popular from 1983-85, yet the public somehow just didn't want it anymore.

    Nik Kershaw. Go West. Thompson Twins. Howard Jones. Paul Young. FGTH. China Crisis. OMD. Heaven 17. Spandau Ballet. The list goes on and on. By the end of 1987 most of these were finished in terms of the Top 40. Simple Minds went stadium rock. Tears For Fears disappeared for 4 years. It was carnage.

    Had the public had their heads turned by Band/Live Aid? Did they just want something different, whatever it was? Had the generation of record buyers simply moved on by 1986/87, and grown out of it? Did the big acts and prevailing sounds of 1983-85 simply not maintain the quality or keep themselves interesting enough? So many questions.
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  15. I think you had to put effort into funding good music after 85/86.

    That said - new wave didn't start in 1980.

    Bands like the cars and roxy music were innovators in the late 70s
  16. This is such a fascinating subject. I feel like this would make for a great documentary.

    But regarding 1986-89, is this a Popjustice thing? Maybe we just collectively have more of a love for the late '80s? I mean, we do consistently shower praise on True Blue/Like a Prayer, Forever Your Girl, Exposure, Tell It to My Heart/Can't Fight Fate, Close, the Tiffany/Debbie Gibson albums, Martika, True Confessions and W.O.W., Belinda/Heaven on Earth/Runaway Horses, Touch Me/ Samantha Fox/I Wanna Have Some Fun, Kylie/Enjoy Yourself, Foreign Affair, Whitney, Jody Watley/Larger Than Life, Results, etc.
  17. I gottta confess, give me the late 80s anyday-and it's albums and ladies like these, that are proof of it.
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  18. You have just listed most of my favourite popstars and all time favourite albums. Late 80s all the way!
  19. Compared to the music of today - it was a golden era for music.
  20. I love the later 80’s but by then I was more picky of what I appreciated. Pre 85 I could pretty much sit through TOTP episodes in full and be happy. Later on it was a much more sporadic affair.

    and for me I think it was something somebody mentioned earlier. I know pop has always had it’s manufacturers and glistening products, but that SAW era seemed to be the start of an excess of it, the boy bands, the featherweight guff of tv shows creating singers who’s careers lasted as long as the Christmas holidays… pre 85 ish it seemed like anything goes and it was a random guess as to what would be successful. Later it seemed to become this formula, and with it the interest waned
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