The Royal Family

Whatever you think about him airing all of this (very) dirty laundry in public, as a tactic it’s 100% what diana would have done if she was in the situation he is in now.

But what situation is he in? She was stuck in a situation she didn’t see a way out of and used the press. But he and his wife have exited the situation they were in. They stepped away from Royal duties. They moved to California. They get to live on their own terms now. So what is the purpose of airing out all the family’s dirty laundry?
 
But what situation is he in? She was stuck in a situation she didn’t see a way out of and used the press. But he and his wife have exited the situation they were in. They stepped away from Royal duties. They moved to California. They get to live on their own terms now. So what is the purpose of airing out all the family’s dirty laundry?

Right of reply. Especially when the stories planted in the press against them are vile.
 
A coronation at the same time as a cost of living crisis, economic recession and public spending reduction... yeah I think Charles 3rd will be our last monarch. I don't see this ending well.
There would have to be a huge movement against the monarchy for it to end. The odds are stacked in their favour. It’s ‘His majesty’s’ government and so they are unlikely to do anything to end it anytime soon.

Polls says the majority are in favour of retaining the monarchy. Apparently the monarchy brings stability, people like tradition blah blah.

Be interesting how polls change after Charles’s first year. I expect support will go down but not enough to make a difference.
 
When you're a very famous public person, right of reply has a limit before the audience you're appealing to grows tired, then annoyed, and finally exhausted and dismissive. Initially, with Oprah's editorial helping hand, Meghan and Harry came out as the winners; unless you're a part of British legacy media, no one could reasonably deny as much - they're crazy about each other, righted the wrongs against them, and had another baby on the way. From there, they should have taken a more Mackenzie Scott-esque approach, using their massive public profile and wealth (they aren't billionaires, but they are millionaires) for philanthropic purposes (there's a separate discussion to be had about philanthropy as a system itself and how it supports inequality, another day, another thread) and they would have gone down as beloved public figures, Daily Mail commenters be damned.

But where Diana had real style, not just in her being fashionable but the way she conducted herself, Harry's surprisingly naive and kind of dumb. His mother wanted out of her marriage; once she got what she wanted, she took her victory and ran and by the time she died, was a pretty confident, purpose-driven woman. Harry's need for an apology and coupling every intimate reveal with, "But, I hope we can reconcile," shows he's just pretty messy, because the people he purports to desire reconciliation with are remarkably private and definitely find this whole tour mortifying, leaving an exhausted public in the middle.
 
The monarchy is all that the English have, so it's not going anywhere anytime soon nn.

Thought of doing away with the monarchy always seemed far more delusional to me than the curiosity and at times affection the general public had for the royal family. People blame the royal family for past crimes which are/were, in essence, the crimes of the nation: it wasn't the monarchy as a singular institution/family who benefitted from wars and conquests and colonies, it was the whole country. Yes, their wealth is inherited, they're not the first or the last. It is what it is. Kings, queens, princes and princesses is a huge part of what makes the UK vaguely appealing to internationals wanting to spend money on holiday. Soggy weather, stony beaches and grimey, grey cities aren't it.
 
The book is such a bizarre choice. He didn't need the money or the opportunity for right of reply given he's already done Oprah and a Netflix series so... what is the point? The only thing he's got out of it is enough press coverage to make the remainining sympathetic part of the public tire of him. You'd think if anyone knew how fickle the British public are it would be a member of the royal family.
 
Harry is still one of them though. He's still using the media to his advantage. He want attention when he likes it. He still has yet to speak out against Andrew as far as I'm aware. He's still a very rich man wanting to make even more money. This narrative that he's "a man of the people, ready to destroy the system" needs to stop. He's only here for himself.
 
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Fuck Oliver Cromwell for being an anti-Catholic, fun-hating murderer who tried to just replicate the monarchy by handing over to his own son. This could have all been done with by 1649 if he wasn’t so bad.
 
Soggy weather, stony beaches and grimey, grey cities aren't it.

Maybe in England. Brighton Council's marketing team worked overtime at some point in the 20th Century for that collection of uncomfortable pebbles to somehow become iconic.

Scottish Beaches stay unbothered. and freezing

I saw the cardboard stand displaying Harry's book in my local Sainsbury's and laughed out loud - it's positioned as literally the first thing you see (beside the security?) but looks strangely sad on it's own, away from anything else you might actually want to buy.
 
I think Harry is an arsehole. From what I’ve seen, it seems to me that they wanted to have their cake and eat it. Get public money for royal duties but also live the lavish lifestyle.

But I am also living for all the bad press Charles, William and Kate are getting. They are a rotten bunch and the sooner we get rid of them, the better.

The story of Meghan borrowing Kate’s lipgloss and squeezing some of it onto her finger much to Kates disgust made me cackle. You can imagine the meltdown Kate had when she got home.
 
I was absolutely on H & M’s side when they decided to up sticks to California and do what they felt was right for themselves and their children, cause lord knows you’ve gotta guard yer yard. I totally was with them all the way, the press have treated Meghan in particular horribly.

but with the Oprah interviews, his book and the sheer amount of press-whoring they’re doing, I’ve lost all respect for them.

You want your privacy, Harry?
you want your wife and kids out of the limelight to be able to live as normal as possible lives without the press breathing down your necks? I’m with you all the way. But if you want to remain credible, stop feeding the press machine that you keep criticising.
 
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