The Scream Franchise
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He/Him
This too. He'll probably ditch it when the girls manage to escape. Too heavy to lug around when trying to chase them through the streets or something.
I hope Sam is dating Josh Segarra’s character. A massive upgrade from that wet noodle Richie.
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I would love this honestly ddd.
What would y’all change, if you could change something about each film?
For me, I wouldn’t change anything about the original.
2 - To beef up the middle section which is a little slow, I’d kill off the sorority sisters to give that section of the move more action.
3 - My biggest wish is that it wasn’t made in the Columbine era so it could have a normal amount of gore. Sarah’s death scene would’ve benefitted from this tremendously.
4 - Id swap the opening for the alternate version that’s on the DVD and include the aftermath scene with Dewey at the crime scene. I’d also recast Olivia with a stronger actress and add one more scene with her to develop her character more before she dies. I also would’ve kept Gale and Dewey’s child in the script.
5 - I’d get rid of the Billy hallucinations and develop the Vince character more. I still don’t understand why he existed. I’d also recast Sam.
For me, I wouldn’t change anything about the original.
2 - To beef up the middle section which is a little slow, I’d kill off the sorority sisters to give that section of the move more action.
3 - My biggest wish is that it wasn’t made in the Columbine era so it could have a normal amount of gore. Sarah’s death scene would’ve benefitted from this tremendously.
4 - Id swap the opening for the alternate version that’s on the DVD and include the aftermath scene with Dewey at the crime scene. I’d also recast Olivia with a stronger actress and add one more scene with her to develop her character more before she dies. I also would’ve kept Gale and Dewey’s child in the script.
5 - I’d get rid of the Billy hallucinations and develop the Vince character more. I still don’t understand why he existed. I’d also recast Sam.
1. Ghostface in the grocery store. It's my favorite movie of all time but no ma'am.
2. Pick up the pacing a bit in the middle. The scene with Sidney and Derek on the bench could probably go.
3. Have Sidney actually meet Roman before the reveal. Also not have his lazy ass "death" scene where Gale checks his pulse.
4. Keep the original opening, get ride of the nasty filter. Take out the sitcom style music cue after Gale says "I've still got it!" Also remove "Fuck Bruce Willis" aka the worst line in the series.
5. Shoot somewhere that looks more like Woodsboro. Actually build the Stu house set outside for atmosphere, another scene with the teens all hanging before the party scene, get to know Amber more before her reveal. Give Melissa a red bull before shooting some of the earlier scenes instead of the director's being like "yes girl give us nothing!"
2. Pick up the pacing a bit in the middle. The scene with Sidney and Derek on the bench could probably go.
3. Have Sidney actually meet Roman before the reveal. Also not have his lazy ass "death" scene where Gale checks his pulse.
4. Keep the original opening, get ride of the nasty filter. Take out the sitcom style music cue after Gale says "I've still got it!" Also remove "Fuck Bruce Willis" aka the worst line in the series.
5. Shoot somewhere that looks more like Woodsboro. Actually build the Stu house set outside for atmosphere, another scene with the teens all hanging before the party scene, get to know Amber more before her reveal. Give Melissa a red bull before shooting some of the earlier scenes instead of the director's being like "yes girl give us nothing!"
OMG! I forgot about "Fuck Bruce Willis." I still don't understand how you cast Anthony Anderson and Adam Brody and do...that. Such bizarre casting for two great actors. They could've made Brody an older brother for Olivia and maybe Anderson could've been the father to one of the teens. They just felt so disconnected from the plot and were written like they were in a different movie. I also don't think the movie needed two more cops when they already were introducing Judy.
1 Nothing.
2. Give Cici another scene before her killing (maybe even set up that she’s going to be sober sister or whatever before the party). As amazing as her scene is I always feel like it comes out of nowhere kind of. Get rid of the singing part.
3. Too much to even start to go into.
4. It needed more gore and needed at least one scary scene.
5. Olivia and Amber needed more development as good as they are in the final act. A chase scene also.
2. Give Cici another scene before her killing (maybe even set up that she’s going to be sober sister or whatever before the party). As amazing as her scene is I always feel like it comes out of nowhere kind of. Get rid of the singing part.
3. Too much to even start to go into.
4. It needed more gore and needed at least one scary scene.
5. Olivia and Amber needed more development as good as they are in the final act. A chase scene also.
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He/They
One of my biggest grievances with the film. There's just no emotional pay off, and the yadda yadda Maureen retcon stupidness. BLAH BLAH BLAH
Literally my biggest entertainment regret in my entire life will always be that Scream 3 didn't have the tone, humour and intensity of the first two. I deserved one more movie like that but they completely dropped the ball (and Columbine happened). I will never forgive Kevin Williamson for getting sidetracked with bullshit and abandoning literally his greatest creation and his biggest calling card even today, 25 years later. Sorry for being dramatic but you know how important the first two movies are for me and I needed one more just like them to close out the trilogy (plus I truly do love the ideas he had, a serial killer becoming a celebrity and having his own disciples is the logical endpoint of all the themes he was developing in the first two and sounds hilarious in that dark, sardonic Scream way). I will never get over what could have been. It was supposed to be the gay Star Wars and he fucked it up!
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I blame the Weinstein's more for being dicks and not waiting until Kevin was available in all honestly. Kevin was booked! For me Scream 3 is an absolute camp classic despite it's faults. Everything ridiculous about it is what I embrace now. The bangs, Parker Posey (camp in the best way), the stupid voice changer, the huge ass explosion, the Scooby Doo third act. It's just fun but thank god we got more. Wouldn't want to end on that note for the franchise.
He/Him
Do you mean Sam?
Most of the things I would change, have already been mentioned:
1. I wouldn't change it, but it doesn't make any sense: Ghostface in the supermarket. When I was a child, I always found it a scary moment, as I was too young to think about the logistics.
2. Cici could've been fleshed out just a little bit more. Also not a fan of the singing scene.
3. Ghost/zombie Maureen felt tonally off.
4. I actually really love the opening, but when it reaches Jenny and Marnie, I wished they snatched other actresses like Paquin or Bell for these roles.
5. Like with Scream 3, the vision of Billy felt tonally off.
1. I wouldn't change it, but it doesn't make any sense: Ghostface in the supermarket. When I was a child, I always found it a scary moment, as I was too young to think about the logistics.
2. Cici could've been fleshed out just a little bit more. Also not a fan of the singing scene.
3. Ghost/zombie Maureen felt tonally off.
4. I actually really love the opening, but when it reaches Jenny and Marnie, I wished they snatched other actresses like Paquin or Bell for these roles.
5. Like with Scream 3, the vision of Billy felt tonally off.
I think the actors were already booked and Wes wanted to be done with the franchise because he wanted to make more Musics of the Heart so tney couldn't wait. No one is to blame really, shit happens. Ideally they would have pumped it out a year after 2 before Columbine happened and we would have had our trilogy. I appreciate Scream 3 despite its many, many faults (magical voice changer, magical fax machine, retconning Scream 1) for being a campy romp but it is so utterly devoid of tension, scares and acidic humour, it gives me more goofy Knives Out than Scream. It is what it is I suppose.
Wait I actually meant Amber.
And why am I only now noticing they have two Olivia's in the franchise assuming Liv is a nicknamed/shortened from Olivia.