The Workplace & Job Hunting
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I'm on AL from tomorrow for 10 days and I'm aiming to use the time wisely and get my CV updated and start the ball rolling on applying for new work. I've been in this role 3.5 years and I am at my limit. I am so bored and over it all. I need change.
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Would gratefully take on board any advice/lessons learned: I’ve worked at the same place for over 15 years (with promotions along the way), straight out of grad school, and I see the writing on the wall for me (thanks to federal funding cuts, etc). How do you effectively “spin” having only one professional experience? I’m not sure things like loyalty and longevity count for much anymore (if it ever did at all). Thank you!
I would show how you have progressed in your role(s) within the firm and bullet list specific tasks that you did e.g. suggested and applied effective time saving ideas, teams worked with and learned, mentored or trained staff, meeting quotas/targets, setting up suppliers, leading in projects, attended conferences, dealt with customer service etc.
Any new skills learned are great to list, especially how you implemented it into work.
Hope that helps and all the best!
Edit: Apparently using the STAR method is best, more info on it below.
https://www.thecvstore.net/blog/cv-star-method/
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‘It was a good ride but I feel I’ve achieved all I can at current place hence looking for some new challenges’. I’d avoid any references to the new administration obviously. It needs to be you driving the change.
Fluff your resume out with other relevant stuff. Go hard on certifications.
Personally I like to read any outside of work stuff that people do that demonstrates they can function like a useful member of society. Being on the board of committees/trusts/non-profits.
Fluff your resume out with other relevant stuff. Go hard on certifications.
Personally I like to read any outside of work stuff that people do that demonstrates they can function like a useful member of society. Being on the board of committees/trusts/non-profits.
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As a guy who used to be on the HR side when my IT department needed hires, I would never see this as a bad thing. You held a job for 15 years (with promotions, no less!) = you're far more reliable than the average person. And I don't think my company was unusual in this regard: our #1 consideration was always, "Will they stay with us?" You've proven that yes, you will, and you can succeed when given that chance. There's nothing you need to worry about spinning.
lol my work did this to foster a “collaborative environment” even if your teams are elsewhere around the world. Half my team are down the country including my manager so like what’s the actual point lol.
Previously we had team agreements where you could go in to be with your teams on certain days, but now it’s go in whenever you want as long as you do your 3 days, like???? I guess they weren’t getting enough bang for their buck for the rent on the office buildings. I have a couple colleagues in my office and friends on other teams cause of moving internally, and thank god. It would be so depressing being sat by myself all day. They said if that’s the case then they encourage you to “network” with other colleagues in different areas. No thank you!!
Have you searched for jobs at Google? Their hiring process is hard but they do hire early career/junior SWE. I’m not junior but tried (and failed dddd) last year because the salary was good and well… it’s Google. You should give it a try!
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How do you handle dealing with an incompetent manager? I ask because I have reached the limit of my patience with mine.
I was assigned to her a little over six months ago and in that time it’s become obvious that she lacks any sort of leadership ability. She cannot make a decision without consulting her peers, her own manager and/or my fellow team members; she talks down to me in almost every interaction; forbids people from using their phone but will think nothing of using her own to argue with her mother (who spends a great deal bitching about to us) over text; and perhaps most damning, has consistently failed to understand or honour my reasonable adjustments. She also takes things very personally. Whenever somebody leaves her team, she instantly believes that it is a slight against her and worries that they hate her.
I have spoken to her manager on a number of occasions about how frustrating I find the situation and how she has contributed to my mental heath struggles- but nothing seems to change. I keep getting asked to be patient while they address my manager’s shortcomings- but I honestly don’t know how much more I can take. She has been in post for nearly two years and the problems were evident from the start- and are getting worse. I had a mental health crisis over the weekend and part of it was triggered by my dread at having to see and deal with her this week (amongst other things).
I’m trying to find other roles within the business and within the wider industry but my role is quite niche and I worry that I don’t have the right transferable skills… yet the thought of continuing to stay in this team fills me with a palpable dread.
I was assigned to her a little over six months ago and in that time it’s become obvious that she lacks any sort of leadership ability. She cannot make a decision without consulting her peers, her own manager and/or my fellow team members; she talks down to me in almost every interaction; forbids people from using their phone but will think nothing of using her own to argue with her mother (who spends a great deal bitching about to us) over text; and perhaps most damning, has consistently failed to understand or honour my reasonable adjustments. She also takes things very personally. Whenever somebody leaves her team, she instantly believes that it is a slight against her and worries that they hate her.
I have spoken to her manager on a number of occasions about how frustrating I find the situation and how she has contributed to my mental heath struggles- but nothing seems to change. I keep getting asked to be patient while they address my manager’s shortcomings- but I honestly don’t know how much more I can take. She has been in post for nearly two years and the problems were evident from the start- and are getting worse. I had a mental health crisis over the weekend and part of it was triggered by my dread at having to see and deal with her this week (amongst other things).
I’m trying to find other roles within the business and within the wider industry but my role is quite niche and I worry that I don’t have the right transferable skills… yet the thought of continuing to stay in this team fills me with a palpable dread.
It really awful when they hire or place someone who is not Manager material, so sorry to hear you've been put in this situation.
It happened to me a few years back, even got HR involved but that was a waste of time. I even reached out to my doctor who was ready to sign me off for my mental health if I needed to, as well as seeing a therapist (that was great but didn't resolve my situation).
What I did was update my CV and portfolio, checked LinkedIn and other recruitment sites for any job opportunities and applied every day. I got some interviews and even to the final, but didn't get the jobs.
What worked in my favour was my Manager was signed off for illness and then got let go. So I didn't have to deal with them any more.
Work is much better and have since hired a competent manager that is great.
All I can say is keep trying to get to another department, applying jobs or hope they get let go. All the best.
It happened to me a few years back, even got HR involved but that was a waste of time. I even reached out to my doctor who was ready to sign me off for my mental health if I needed to, as well as seeing a therapist (that was great but didn't resolve my situation).
What I did was update my CV and portfolio, checked LinkedIn and other recruitment sites for any job opportunities and applied every day. I got some interviews and even to the final, but didn't get the jobs.
What worked in my favour was my Manager was signed off for illness and then got let go. So I didn't have to deal with them any more.
Work is much better and have since hired a competent manager that is great.
All I can say is keep trying to get to another department, applying jobs or hope they get let go. All the best.
I took voluntary redundancy just before Christmas - employed by my current company until 31st March - and I am going through the motions. Some days I’m excited about the future, other days I can sob for hours on end worrying about how I’m going to pay my mortgage.
The job market seems tough out there. I’m either not hearing back from jobs I’m well qualified for, I’m being told I’m not qualified enough for senior roles at my pay grade or being told I’m overqualified for career pivot roles that sound up my street.
Every successful applicant I’m hearing of at the minute secured their role through their network. It just seems it’s all about who you know rather than what you know these days….
The job market seems tough out there. I’m either not hearing back from jobs I’m well qualified for, I’m being told I’m not qualified enough for senior roles at my pay grade or being told I’m overqualified for career pivot roles that sound up my street.
Every successful applicant I’m hearing of at the minute secured their role through their network. It just seems it’s all about who you know rather than what you know these days….
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It’s always been that way imo, once you get past a certain level of experience.
The thing that annoys me right now is the amount of ghost listings. Companies pretending they’re hiring to give the impression they’re growing.
I bit the bullet and got signed off by my GP last year after huge stress and anxiety became unmanageable because of my line manager. What started as 2 weeks ended up as 5 months and I can honestly say I don’t regret it one bit.
Toxic corporate workplaces sweep bad behaviour under the carpet and protect people in positions of power. To my own detriment I can’t sit quiet and watch other people be bullied and mistreated, my biggest gripe is usually people that look the other way.
“The standard you walk past is the standard you accept” is something a lot of people need to wrap their heads around.
Toxic corporate workplaces sweep bad behaviour under the carpet and protect people in positions of power. To my own detriment I can’t sit quiet and watch other people be bullied and mistreated, my biggest gripe is usually people that look the other way.
“The standard you walk past is the standard you accept” is something a lot of people need to wrap their heads around.
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Jealous of you Euros and your actual avenues for complaining about bullshit management behavior. In the US that would just get you straight onto the next layoff list.
Unless it’s a significant provable ethics/compliance violation. Even then you’re probably still getting fired.
Unless it’s a significant provable ethics/compliance violation. Even then you’re probably still getting fired.
Wellllll, it's a bit different. If you got a permanent contract you can do more and legal stuff is still in place, but if you are a temp and annoying they will just not renew your contract.
My intern send me a message on her second day being like hi I'm coming in around 10, as that's better for my travel schedule and I'll compensate during lunch. Just... a statement. I mean - this generation?! On one hand, yeah you know it's just a job but you are in a new position and working on your thesis... When I was an intern, I for sure worked for it at the time and ASK before doing things like this.
Ah well.
Completely agree with you. I respect Gen-Z for not even questioning putting themselves first like this but it is hard when as a millenial I've always kept going no how ill I am or shitty I feel. It's hard to unlearn that too. One Gen Z person I worked with would take days off if she'd had a bad night's sleep. She left after less than a year and of course it was for a better paid job too. Good for them but bad for us millenials.