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Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by Veritaserum, Feb 16, 2016.

  1. Clinton also polled higher than Trump. Biden has the same issue as Clinton - the inability to excite. His base very neatly overlaps Clinton's who weren't enthusiastic enough to win 2016. This "everyday man rural Joe" claim DNC heads and centrists have tried to peddle is going to backfire when no one goes out to vote because they find someone pleasant.

    It also ties back to the myth of "rural voters reject progressivism" when time and time again showed that economic progressivism is extremely popular with rural voters and cultural progressivism was not. When you lack the former, rural populations inevitably reject the latter. Moderates didn't do best in rural communities in the mid-terms - they did best amongst upper middle class suburbs, which will always swing back to Trump come election time because rich people vote with their wallets as they continually do.
  2. 3Xs


    Imagine fucking over an entire generation just because of your own selfish desire to run for president for the 3rd time. Boomers really are something else.
  3. It's just shocking how it's *literally* the same mistake as 2016.

    Democrats will blow all their money on poorly place TV ads that only highlight negatives about Trump, will try to serve hash-tag relatability with millennials with a policy plan that'll amount to posting Throwback Thursday's with Obama while Joe does back-door dinners amongst the Wall Street and Professional Suburbanite crowds trying to convince them to vote for him, etc. while Trump preaches in the exact towns he needs to win about how Creepy Uncle Joe is trying to sell off American values to the Ukrainians.

    All amounting to Biden losing with even less of a popular vote lead than Clinton had. Radical centrism really is wild.
  4. LiK


    Lets just disqualify all boomers not named Elizabeth Warren.
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  5. Just catching up on an article I bookmarked a while ago: https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2019/04/mueller-report-release-barr-trump/587176/

    It's SO clear that Trump obstructed justice and yet the Dems won't even begin hearings. This goes so far beyond politics, it's about upholding the law and holding corrupt presidents to account, and the Dems are just like...meh. It's so disappointing. They haven't even got this tax returns yet: https://nyti.ms/2J31bhi

    Like what is even the point of congress right now.
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  6. To be fair, it's not like they aren't trying to get his tax returns. Trump and Mnuchin are doing the absolute most to drag that fight out.

    Though I suspect Auntie Maxine will personally break into the IRS and snatch those documents any day now.
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  7. This is all true, but I think you’re underestimating this strategy. It can work in 2020 because 1) Trump as a threat to Democrats is realized and not potential (as it was in Clinton’s race) and 2) Biden is a man.

    He will have a much easier time than Hillary did for those two reasons.
  8. I don't have much faith, but if Biden does win, I'm scared to know what monstrous demagogue the country will elect after four to eight more years of "moderate" neoliberalism.
  9. Shenanigans in Tennessee. This House of Reps bullshit with Glen Casada is crazy. His now ex chief of staff was doing coke in the capitol on the regular, sending sexual and racist text messages between the two of them, and getting paid 200k for a part time job as a chief of staff for some dumb fuck GOPer in Tennessee of all places?

    Now Casada has hired the corrupt piece of shit who helped send out racist mailers against our ex three term Democratic representative Nathan Vaughn who also happens to be running for Mayor now and there's rumblings of shenanigans happening with that as well!

    The rot is everywhere.
  10. The (new/newly released depending on who you ask) Sandra Bland video... devastating.
  11. Beyond words.
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  12. Let’s keep up the momentum, girls
  13. I don’t want to watch it. Anyone wanna provide details under a spoiler tag?
  14. It's not graphic.
    It is however, appalling and unnerving. Assuming I saw the right clip, it's a POV perspective from Sandra being shouted at by Brian Encinia after he opener her door and threatens to "light [her] up" after she kept calm and rightfully questioned his aggressiveness because of failure to signal. She then gets out of the car, and he gets mad at her when he notices she's been filming. Then she walks for a second, and the clip ends.
  15. Thanks. Disgusting but not surprising.
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  16. Splinter:

    We all know that our president is a terrible businessman, but information about his federal income tax returns obtained by the New York Times shows that he is even worse than previously thought. Between the years of 1985 and 1994, Trump lost an astonishing $1.17 billion.

    In fact, year after year, Mr. Trump appears to have lost more money than nearly any other individual American taxpayer. The Times found when it compared his results with detailed information the I.R.S. compiles on an annual sampling of high-income earners. His core business losses in 1990 and 1991 — more than $250 million each year — were more than double those of the nearest taxpayers in the I.R.S. information for those years.

    President Deals!!!

    The plus side of all these losses for Trump was that he wasn’t required to pay income tax for eight out of the ten years surveyed by the Times. But that respite still didn’t make up for his massive losses.

    The Times still wasn’t able to obtain Trump’s actual returns, just information about what was in them. They then used publicly available IRS information on high earners to match what they knew about Trump’s returns and confirm the information.

    The White House’s response to the Times report has been odd, to say the least. First, a senior official issued a statement that alleged that Trump knows that the tax code is broken because he himself didn’t have to pay taxes.

    “The president got massive depreciation and tax shelter because of large-scale construction and subsidized developments. That is why the president has always scoffed at the tax system and said you need to change the tax laws. You can make a large income and not have to pay large amount of taxes,” the official said.

    Later, Trump lawyer Charles Harder told the Times that the information was “demonstrably false,” and that the Times’ report “about the president’s tax returns and business from 30 years ago are highly inaccurate.”

    “IRS transcripts, particularly before the days of electronic filing, are notoriously inaccurate,” Harder added, without listing any specific inaccuracies.

    Mark J. Mazur, a former director of research at the IRS, says this isn’t true. Mazur told the Times that transcripts are in fact accurate summaries of tax returns.

    There’s plenty of other fun details in the Times report, like the millions of dollars Trump made (and then lost) on the stock market in the late ‘80s by threatening to take over companies and then backing out, or the staggering losses he accrued each year buying hotels and buildings that never made a profit, which sometimes added up to hundreds of millions of dollars a year.

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    (he's cute too tbh)
  18. It's so strange! If the Mueller report totally exonerates you, then why would you need to assert executive privilege over the full report, Donny??

    Honestly someone just needs to leak the damn thing already, I'll be the first in line to donate to their GoFundMe for legal representation.

    Or what if we organized a well-regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, to obtain the report?

    Or what if we just went on strike? I mean it seems to me like taxes are an unfair overreach of the government, so I assert privilege over my money. That's logic that works nowadays, right?
    Last edited: May 8, 2019
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  19. I..... don't know whether to be glad some of these secret centrists are finally going to work to start chipping away at Biden's mountain (inadvertently making the clearest path for Sanders), or shocked at how blatant they are in basically admitting their progressivism was pandering and nothing more that they're already planning on disavowing.
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