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Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by Veritaserum, Feb 16, 2016.

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  1. MollieSwift21

    MollieSwift21 Staff Member

    Cruz losing the evangelicals vote to Trump seem suggestion there's no path for him either.
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  2. I want Trump to be the nominee because I really can't see him winning a general election. President Kasich or Rubio would be much less worrisome, but I think both men would be much more likely to win against Hillary due to being moderate and having potential support from independents.

    (Ted Cruz is the most terrifying prospect of all.)
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  3. The worst thing about Ted Cruz is that he's obviously fucking extremely intelligent and believes the bullshit he's peddling.
  4. The democrats will suffer if Hilary is the nominee. The overall turn out for the party has dropped significantly unlike the republicans.

    For entertainment purposes, I want Trump to secure his nomination.
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  5. Someboy

    Someboy Staff Member

    If the Dems are going to suffer, why would you ever want Trump on the other side, potentially benefitting?!

    Not surprised in the slightest about Jeb; from the moment he announced he was going to run, I didn't understand why, and he never had a good answer. I think he was completely warped and coopted by The Establishment, who believed they needed a legacy name to combat Hillary in the fall. But it completely backfired, and now they have to figure out how to take down Trump.

    The GOP should really be backing Kasich, although it seems Rubio is the golden boy, for whatever reason. As that video on the previous page shows, even if you don't agree with him, he approaches his politics from a place of empathy and optimism. It's amazing that he said America isn't the worst off it's ever been (that's true) - I wish he were speaking to larger crowds and on bigger platforms.
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  6. I can't believe people are voting for Clinton. What a real shame. Voting for a facade of change rather than an actual change.

    Any liberal is going to prefer Kasich, but I don't think he can rile the base. I think they're best with Trump.

    He will take some disaffected liberals, some Sanders voters, and he'll ignite the base. Fox, et al, will fall in line.
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  7. Well I'm not American so...here for entertainment purposes. *Kanye shrug*

    Hilary's best bet to be POTUS is against Trump, imo. Curious to see who New Yorkers back if this does happen.
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  8. There's no question Clinton would win here by an astronomical margin.
  9. Tribal Spaceman

    Tribal Spaceman Oh, OK.

    At this stage, everything is #POTUSPROMO
  10. It's sort of funny just how little support Jeb was able to drum up with all that money they spent and finally enlisting George and Barbara to campaign.
  11. The exact same thing. Can't help being drawn by that mess. Get my (foreign) vote Trump !
  12. At least Jeb gave us these two cringeworthy moments:

  13. This is such an ugly attitude to have though. Based on his rhetoric, a Trump presidency would have a very corrosive impact on the lives of Muslims, Hispanics, Black people, LGBT+ people, women etc.

    Do stand there and go "I HOPE HE WINS FOR THE LOLZ" is enabling that kind of divisiveness and bigotry.

    Lots of vile leaders had very interesting periods in power but I wouldn't wish that on anyone just for a good laugh on the other side of the world.
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  14. I don't like Trump very much, but I've got to give him props for being so decisive and tactical. People like to believe he's an idiot and just says what comes to his mind when in actuality he's playing the GOP like a violin. In a sense, he's a RINO and socially more liberal than what people are lead to believe. The American people are sick of the establishment which is why we see Bernie and Trump at the forefront. The establishment has perverted this nation from the top. We must avoid another Clinton at all cost. It will only bring us a Clinton 2.0 regime. #BernieSanders2016
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  15. I wasn't serious at all, I thought the last sentence made it quite evident. My french humour stinks, sorry.
    As an uninformed foreigner, I won't back someone just for entertainment. That'd be me voting for Marine Le Pen just because I love how feiry she is when debating.
    I do live for Trump's messiness and I'd like him to be the republican nominee because to my mind the other candidates minus Kasich seem uninteresting, plus the fact apparently him being the nominee would enable Hillary to have a better shot at winning the whole thing.
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  16. I don't buy the whole "Just like Sanders, Trump is breaking down the establishment and that's why he's popular!".

    He's popular cause he normalizes racism. Like... there's literally no other reason. He uses false scare tactics and propaganda and people buy into it.

    With the Supreme Court justice replacement(s) coming up, I'd feel like Democrats would really pull together for Hillary in a Clinton vs Trump election.
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  17. With THREE justices who lean left (if you include Kennedy, the swing vote) in their 80s, the Supreme Court is my biggest worry going into the election. It's typically difficult for a party to hold on to office for three terms in a row, but I'm really crossing my fingers that Hillary or Bernie will be able to swing it. I worry about the major step back that would happen should a republican win the presidency.
  18. Read somewhere that the city has a habit of voting for true New Yorkers despite political affiliation. Hence, why it became a red state in a couple of elections. I'll take your word for it.

    I may be wrong but isn't Trump the leading candidate for the Republicans among women? On top of that, Hispanics are voting for other Republican candidates because they align with their conservative culture and religion. Then, you have the New Blacks and traditionalists within the LGBT+ community that are strong supporters of Republicans.

    I don't feel sorry for those lot that KNOW what their party is about but choose to turn a blind eye because they think that they've made it. Or whatever crap they believe.

    Democrats made their own beds by not standing up to the Clintons. In no way shape or form do the people want another Clinton or Bush in the White House. Her ego will cost the party another term in the WH, if she's up against anyone other than Trump. This should have been a walk in the park for the Democrats.
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  19. Someboy

    Someboy Staff Member

    Well, I agree that is' preposterous no one really challenged Hillary, to the point where the nomination process becomes more of a coronation. Bernie was never going to be a realistic choice.

    I'm wary of the "Hillary will wipe the floor with Trump" thinking too, because he wasn't supposed to win any primaries at one point, let alone two with a substantial lead.
  20. ohnostalgia

    ohnostalgia Staff Member

    Agreed. Some pretty dangerous thinking right there considering people swore he would be done as a candidate for an entire year and he's not gone yet.
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