X Factor 2009

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MadeInHeaven

ladygagaogaga said:
I liked the RATM campaign for the fact that it is saving Xmas number 1.
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I'm not sure that it is, especially. I sort of respect the achievement of the campaign too, but - for good or ill - it's still a campaign that's effectively driven by the X-Factor; it's just that it's a negative campaign 'against' rather than a positive campaign 'for'.

But that's sort of my biggest problem with it too... RATM would never ever, under normal circumstances, get to number one in the British singles chart. Which means a lot of people bought it who don't necessarily even like it. That's hardly saving the Christmas number one.

When I feel bitter about the X-Factor stranglehold over the Christmas number one (or - even worse - the PRESUMPTION that it will be number one), it's because I'm nostalgic for a time when songs got to number one at Christmas either by being zeitgeist embarrassments (Blobby) or because they just happened to be songs that caught the public imagination at that moment (Gary Jules). But here is a number one single that's coming from a place of bitterness and negativity; and in its own calculated way is therefore arguably even more cynical than the X-Factor single ever was.

However, I don't especially like the Joe cover either, so I'm all over the place with this! I guess I'd just rather a third song got to number one that just happened to be a track the nation flipped with excitement for.
 
heartmightmelt

heartmightmelt

MadeInHeaven said:
...here is a number one single that's coming from a place of bitterness and negativity; and in its own calculated way is therefore arguably even more cynical than the X-Factor single ever was.
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That sums up my feelings for the whole campaign perfectly.
 
inanotherlife

inanotherlife

heartmightmelt said:
MadeInHeaven said:
...here is a number one single that's coming from a place of bitterness and negativity; and in its own calculated way is therefore arguably even more cynical than the X-Factor single ever was.
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That sums up my feelings for the whole campaign perfectly.
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Off topic but your avatar is fricking awesome!
 
Sally_Harper

Sally_Harper

MadeInHeaven said:
ladygagaogaga said:
I liked the RATM campaign for the fact that it is saving Xmas number 1.
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I'm not sure that it is, especially. I sort of respect the achievement of the campaign too, but - for good or ill - it's still a campaign that's effectively driven by the X-Factor; it's just that it's a negative campaign 'against' rather than a positive campaign 'for'.

But that's sort of my biggest problem with it too... RATM would never ever, under normal circumstances, get to number one in the British singles chart. Which means a lot of people bought it who don't necessarily even like it. That's hardly saving the Christmas number one.

When I feel bitter about the X-Factor stranglehold over the Christmas number one (or - even worse - the PRESUMPTION that it will be number one), it's because I'm nostalgic for a time when songs got to number one at Christmas either by being zeitgeist embarrassments (Blobby) or because they just happened to be songs that caught the public imagination at that moment (Gary Jules). But here is a number one single that's coming from a place of bitterness and negativity; and in its own calculated way is therefore arguably even more cynical than the X-Factor single ever was.

However, I don't especially like the Joe cover either, so I'm all over the place with this! I guess I'd just rather a third song got to number one that just happened to be a track the nation flipped with excitement for.
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Completely agree with you. And for these reasons I am rather pathetically pretending that Bad Romance was No 1, because it's the highest song there that people actually bought purely because they like it. (Unless there was a "Get Bad Romance to #3!!!" campaign that I missed?)
 
heartmightmelt

heartmightmelt

Do you know what I missed more than anything else this year?

Tony the security guy.

He's like *the* cult figure of the X Factor (Peter Dickinson and Dannii Minogue's hair excluded). I wonder if he has a Twitter account or a Facebook appreciation page.
 
RhythmNative

RhythmNative

Sorry to bump this thread - but the first section of this article talks about X Factor for a bit. Like how the Sunday show has become a kind of TOTP and the Joe vs Rage debacle.

http://www.ukgameshows.com/ukgs/Weaver's_Week_2010-01-03

Some other commentators have said that this was an "idiotic" stunt, as all the participants have signed up to the taste of the man behind the campaign. We're not actually seeing this point – there's little difference between 500,000 people following some bloke off of the interwebs and 450,000 following the fashion set by Mr. Cowell off the telly. Neither group is buying their chosen song on its musical merits – the Cowell fans are associating the song with the series they've watched, the opposition are promoting their song as a totem against everything Mr. Cowell stands for.
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Charley

Charley

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Didn't want to start a new thread for this, so I thought I'd post this here.

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/xfactor/a200527/cowell-wont-sign-x-factor-finalists.html said:
Cowell won't sign X Factor finalists

Simon Cowell has reportedly decided not to sign any of last year's X Factor finalists.

Cowell's record label Syco has allegedly chosen to focus on the show's winner Joe McElderry instead of working with Stacey Solomon, Danyl Johnson or runner-up Olly Murs.

"Simon has decided he won't have anything to do with them in a professional sense going forward," a source told the News of the World. "He doesn't have anything against the guys but wants to concentrate on turning Joe McElderry into a star.

"They've got a contract with Butlins to perform at summer school holiday gigs. And they're still making £100,000 from the X Factor tour - but this is a huge blow."

A spokesperson for Syco confirmed the decision, adding: "We never guarantee contracts for anyone other than the X Factor winner and this year we've decided to focus on Joe.

"However, we understand there is interest in other finalists from many parts of the musical industry and we hope they all do very well."
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Alphableat

Alphableat

To be fair, there was nobody that was that incredible this year, and Simon wouldn't be the best man to turn any of the runner-ups into a success.
 
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gotmilk?

What? You mean the "BEST MOST TALENTED YEAR SO FAR!!11" doesn't get signed yet the previous had JLS, Diana, Eoghan and Ruth with some sort of impending deal? Ha.

John and Edward will prevail.
 
heartmightmelt

heartmightmelt

To be honest, I prefer that he only makes a commitment to the winner now; it makes the competiiton more intense. It's hardly inspiring when the top 3 or 4 get contracts from Syco, like back in the first three or four years.

JLS have done extremely well for themselves on Epic; one wonders if they'd got the same kind of launch on Syco if their option had been picked up in the beginning? I suspect their success has started a precedent that has continued with Jedward's transference from Syco management over to Louis Walsh.

Granted neither of them is a big step away from Syco, but enough to make them priority act for either artists representation, rather than be second best to the winner at Syco.
 
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ladygagaogaga

Today I was reading an article about Jedward, it said "they will probably be the most successful out of this years lot".

And I was like "yeah probably ... like more than ... ".

For a minute I actually forgot about Joe completely, or that he won.

This year was a disaster save for Jedward.
 
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SockMonkey

Someone mentioned Lloyd to me the other day, and I had to look him up on Google to even remember what he looked like!
 
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StarryEyed

Looking back...this season wasn't that memorable at all was it? It's quite bad that all we'll ever seem to be remember (at least for the minute) is Jedward. Season 5 had some of the best talent.
 
Robsolete

Robsolete

This was a terrible year, thank God for John and Edward. It didn't help that it was following series 5 which will forever be the best series by far.
 
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IotV

Season Five had the best (overall, of course) talent of all the series. Although Leona outstrips everyone by about eighteen miles.
 
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