X Factor USA - Season 3

Season 2 wasn't awesome, but it showed a marked improvement upon Season 1. Hopefully they do keep Demi. She was usually a great judge, and it seemed that by the end of it, she was getting the hang of mentoring.
 
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Resi12

Cringe. These past two seasons have been like painfully extended pilots.
 
Season 2 wasn't awesome, but it showed a marked improvement upon Season 1. Hopefully they do keep Demi. She was usually a great judge, and it seemed that by the end of it, she was getting the hang of mentoring.

I kept thinking Season 1 was bad but I don't think we knew how good we had it until Season 2. The auditions, boot camp, judges houses and majority of live shows felt worse - it looked so cheap. I can't put my finger on which set of contestants were better because I felt that Season 2 had a lot of potential but weren't utilised properly.

I adore Demi, I want her to come back and slay. I hope the two new judges work well with them. Ne-Yo doesn't exactly inspire me though.
 
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Season 2 was better than Season 1 because it actually had contestants with true star potential such as Cece Frey, Paige Thomas, and Fifth Harmony. Also, we had Britney!

In Season 3, I would love it if Willie Jones decides to audition again and make it further into the competition. I'd also love it if Kelly Rowland will be a judge. She'd kill it, and I think she'll work better in American TV.
 
I adore Demi, I want her to come back and slay. I hope the two new judges work well with them. Ne-Yo doesn't exactly inspire me though.

I think it's that Demi seemed to be the only one truly invested in the process. Even Simon, who should be invested if only for the success of his own franchise, seemed bored a few weeks into the finals.

Season 2 was better than Season 1 because it actually had contestants with true star potential such as Cece Frey, Paige Thomas, and Fifth Harmony. Also, we had Britney!

The talent level in Season 2 just does not compare to Season 1. Of course, the only positive thing to come from Britney was the endless stream of GIFs of her facial expressions.
 
The show has been nothing but a black hole for money for Fox. This will be the last year, I guarantee it. It's just so embarrassingly amateur to watch, in every way.
 
You know, for someone who starred in the nation's no. 1 show for the better part of a decade, Simon really doesn't know that much about what appeals to the American public. That's really the problem with X-Factor USA.
 
It's also all about tabloid culture. In Britain, it is the daily analysis of the show and every little scandal (manufactured or otherwise) that keeps the show's hype building throughout the week and throughout the competition. It's really absent from the X Factor USA - whether it be because American's are more likely to buy weekly publications, or just because people don't care about the show - there just isn't the media frenzy over it. And since the X Factor is style over substance, it needs that hype machine to keep it going.
 
It's not that Simon hasn't tried to build that sort of culture with X Factor USA, it's just that I think the American public as a whole sees right through the manipulated and manufactured nature of it. Hiring Britney and Khloe were deliberate attempts to create that sort of drama and both failed miserably at delivering anything substantial (though I did kind of like it when Khloe flubbed her lines because it actually made her seem real and sort of likable). That said, it's not that a majority of Americans aren't entertained by manufactured drama, with as popular as those ridiculous Real Housewives shows and their ilk are. That's probably the part that confounds Simon. I think it might be that Americans have become desensitized to that sort of manufactured drama on talent shows (since American Idol is guilty of it as well, albeit in a bit less obvious of a way).

Another point of difference is that Americans in general just aren't as interested in those big, showy performances. This is one of those things that killed Season 1 of X Factor USA. It got much better in Season 2, where the big, showy performances were utilized more for the performers who actually embraced it (like, say, Lyric 145 and CeCe). If Tate had competed in Season 1, I would've fully expected him to be forced to perform something like Wanted Dead or Alive with a corral of booty girls with cowboy boots and hats dancing behind him and a glitter cannon finale. But perhaps that's overstating it a bit. My point is that in the big performance vs. big voice spectrum on talent shows, Americans tend to sit more on the big voice side, which is one thing that has kept Idol afloat all these years and one of the reasons why The Voice is popular over here.

What Simon should focus on for Season 3 is actually putting together a panel of judges that are likable, honest, and most of all, have a good rapport with each other. This is what Idol had back in its hey day (and to a lesser extent, in Season 10 when ratings stabilized instead of going down drastically), and what The Voice currently has. Once that's in place, the focus should once again be on putting in viable talent, which he did a decent job of for Season 2. If he wants to include drama, all he needs to do is let it unfold more naturally and it'll be received much better. But I guess we'll see. Sometimes I think Simon would do best for himself if he just let X Factor die over here until Idol and The Voice finally go down in flames. Then he could swoop in when there's a renewed interest in talent shows.

Fuck, I've written a lot.
 
The tabloid culture thing is very true - America just doesn't care. Didn't he hire someone from the British press to help him in America? It's done absolutely nothing and I hate the thought of the ratings dropping below an 8 million average. It's so true... Britney, Khloe, and even Demi just out of rehab were all for press.

I would love a panel that could work well together. I think Louis, Dannii, Cheryl and Simon worked really well together for a variance in opinions, tension, different types of chemistry and all different backgrounds. Do they test panels together on AI or The Voice? They never ever test them together on X Factor, it's all clumbed together and hoped for the best.
 
Do they test panels together on AI or The Voice? They never ever test them together on X Factor, it's all clumbed together and hoped for the best.

I doubt it. These days, the mindset seems to be "Let's drop an insane amount of money on a big name diva and then fill in the rest of the panel with some other people known in their genres and hope for the best," without any regard as to how they'll act together. Like with the current season of American Idol. Individually, Mariah, Nicki, and Keith are fine (I'm not including Randy for obvious reasons), but together, the four of them are either awkward or silent. Nicki and Keith seem to get along well, Nicki and Randy are fine together (minus Nicki's hilarious facial expressions when he goes off on a tangent), and Randy and Mariah are fine together since they've known each other for so long, but the four of them together can be rough. And this isn't even getting into the ridiculousness that is the supposed Nicki/Mariah feud.
 

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