X-Men ‘97

It's a pretty cool recreation of the classic Jim Lee era of X-men. Jean stealing Psylocke's pose is a bitsy iconic considering Cyclops used to fantasise about her in the comics.

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Ha! Just noticed a pregnant Dazzler in this!!
 
I honestly can’t wait. I’ve been rewatching the original and it’s honestly still as brilliant today.

One of my favourite childhood memories is my mum letting me skip school in the afternoon just before Xmas so we could watch the Phoenix saga episodes back to back on Fox Kids.
I remember being in awe when Jean emerged from the waters and declared, "I. AM. PHOENIX!" I would say it constantly, pose and all, like the fabulous queen I was.

Just a few episodes later, Jean's cry for help in "The Fate of the Phoenix" hit home so hard. "I can't fight it! Not every second of every day. Never slipping, not even for an instant! Scott, please, do it!" As a depressed, closeted kid trying to repress my sexuality, I couldn't believe how perfectly Catherine Disher captured the despair of feeling like you always had to fight who you were. And I always thought it was so beautiful how the X-Men banded together to give life to their friend, in the same way that so many of my friends were so supportive when I finally came out. "We understand. And we accept."

If the new show can capture even a fraction of that essence, and instill in a new generation that message of love and acceptance, then it'll be worth it.
 
I remember being in awe when Jean emerged from the waters and declared, "I. AM. PHOENIX!" I would say it constantly, pose and all, like the fabulous queen I was.

Just a few episodes later, Jean's cry for help in "The Fate of the Phoenix" hit home so hard. "I can't fight it! Not every second of every day. Never slipping, not even for an instant! Scott, please, do it!" As a depressed, closeted kid trying to repress my sexuality, I couldn't believe how perfectly Catherine Disher captured the despair of feeling like you always had to fight who you were. And I always thought it was so beautiful how the X-Men banded together to give life to their friend, in the same way that so many of my friends were so supportive when I finally came out. "We understand. And we accept."

If the new show can capture even a fraction of that essence, and instill in a new generation that message of love and acceptance, then it'll be worth it.
This was a beautiful post. Thank you
 
I remember being in awe when Jean emerged from the waters and declared, "I. AM. PHOENIX!" I would say it constantly, pose and all, like the fabulous queen I was.

Just a few episodes later, Jean's cry for help in "The Fate of the Phoenix" hit home so hard. "I can't fight it! Not every second of every day. Never slipping, not even for an instant! Scott, please, do it!" As a depressed, closeted kid trying to repress my sexuality, I couldn't believe how perfectly Catherine Disher captured the despair of feeling like you always had to fight who you were. And I always thought it was so beautiful how the X-Men banded together to give life to their friend, in the same way that so many of my friends were so supportive when I finally came out. "We understand. And we accept."

If the new show can capture even a fraction of that essence, and instill in a new generation that message of love and acceptance, then it'll be worth it.
Well said! This has has always what the X-Men meant to me when I started reading the comic books decades ago.

I can't wait for the new queer generation to discover them.
 
This was a beautiful post. Thank you
Thanks, I was afraid it might come off as too dramatic, but then again I learned from Jean and Storm. Looking back I missed the opportunity to really camp it up when I came out. "Hear me, friends! No longer am I the man you knew! I am camp incarnate! I am a flaming homosexual!"

Well said! This has has always what the X-Men meant to me when I started reading the comic books decades ago.

I can't wait for the new queer generation to discover them.
It honestly breaks my heart to see the usual idiots coming for the show, apparently having missed the entire point of the X-Men. My hope is they're just a dumb, unfortunately loud minority.

One of the reasons I'm rooting for the new show is A, the voice cast deserve their flowers, and B, they remain staunch allies.

 
It’s a shame the frankly incredible Krakoa era in the comics is coming to such a middling end in order to have brand synergy with this cartoon. I assume it’ll be cute and I’m looking forward to it but it’s not worth the comics regressing (if that is the plan Marvel have). Krakoa rejuvenated the X-Fandom in unprecedented ways - I’m not sure doing 90s nostalgia will help build on that further. I guess I just hope what they produce is worthy, and of quality. The original cartoon isn’t…good…I adored it but like… it’s ropey. It tried its best and has merit, but let’s not act like it isn’t a mere sliver of the quality of the source material.
 
As good as Krakoa was, it was getting stale and needed to end sooner rather than later. There was only so far it could have gone. Mutants being essentially immortal and all living in seclusion on a faraway island was only ever a fun little footnote in the grander scheme of things. I'm excited about where they go from here. They've created something fabulous and can build off it in so manty ways without it all being a rehash of the past or having the safety net of The Five.
 
Hard disagree, I'm sorry. I would read a zillion more years of the Krakoan Age (Leah's X-Factor in particular could have and should have gone on for decades). There was so much more left to tell.

Getting back 90s throwback X-Men is blah. I've been trying to stay unspoiled, but some of the stuff I saw a week ago made me queasy. If we go back to a school upstate after tasting the grandeur of spacefaring X-sovereignty, I'll scream.
 
Eh, Krakoa has been middling more often than it hasn’t been. An incredible concept that rarely lived up to its own promise. HOXPOX is an all-timer but the rest?

Many would say that the wheels fell off as soon as Marvel told Hickman to keep the era going and he quit causing everything we’ve had in the last two years to be off-plan, but truthfully I think the problems started quite a while before that. The early days seemed intent in actually addressing the problematic political nature of Krakoa, and the early run was full of these very finely handed moments of horror (they’re all pod people, that panel of Doug and Warlock in the woods) all of which just got washed away. The nuance was just lost.

And as for what they did to Moira…
 
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Where should I start watching from in the original series so I understand what’s going on in the new eps? I’ve seen them all but I remember series five being a bit of a mess.
 
And as for what they did to Moira…
I thought the story itself was fascinating, but why oh why did it have to be Moira?! I actually lowkey love the character they used for House of XCII instead, and kind of hope the new show adapts it for an arc.

Where should I start watching from in the original series so I understand what’s going on in the new eps? I’ve seen them all but I remember series five being a bit of a mess.
It was really only the last 6 episodes of series 5 that somehow had even cheaper animation. Realistically, you just need to watch the series finale, "Graduation Day," as a reminder of how the show ended. Even then I'm sure they'll have a recap video to catch everyone up.

I'm planning a rewatch myself but I think I'm mostly just gonna do all of the first series, then mostly just the multi-part episodes, since that's when the show was best. I'll also make room for the Rogue standalones, "The Cure" and "A Rogue's Tale," for when I need a really good cry.

And we have a new trailer!
 
I’m very disappointed with the end of Krakoa. Gillen’s stuff is decent but feels miles away from Hickman’s original plan. I’ll never understand why Marvel parted ways with Hickman to extend the Krakoa era by a year (and end with a whimper).

However if the rumour is true, Gail Simone writing the flagship X Book? I’ll take that as a win. I’ve always loved her stuff at DC.
 
By the sounds of it, things had already substantially changed from Hickman’s pitch even before he departed. He had three acts planned but when the writers’ team collectively voted to remain in act one for longer, Hickman had nowhere to go.

I don’t even buy that the Inferno we ended up with was at all what he originally wanted, but rather an attempt at tying up some loose ends while also having to set up with the story planned for the future without him.
 
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I thought the story itself was fascinating, but why oh why did it have to be Moira?! I actually lowkey love the character they used for House of XCII instead, and kind of hope the new show adapts it for an arc.


It was really only the last 6 episodes of series 5 that somehow had even cheaper animation. Realistically, you just need to watch the series finale, "Graduation Day," as a reminder of how the show ended. Even then I'm sure they'll have a recap video to catch everyone up.

I'm planning a rewatch myself but I think I'm mostly just gonna do all of the first series, then mostly just the multi-part episodes, since that's when the show was best. I'll also make room for the Rogue standalones, "The Cure" and "A Rogue's Tale," for when I need a really good cry.

And we have a new trailer!

Thanks so much. I remember buying all the VHSes from MVC.
 
I’m very disappointed with the end of Krakoa. Gillen’s stuff is decent but feels miles away from Hickman’s original plan. I’ll never understand why Marvel parted ways with Hickman to extend the Krakoa era by a year (and end with a whimper).

Definitely a silly move, they might as well just have done what Hickman wanted as a good chunk of the last extended year was only Fall of X which has basically been a messy, unfocused mess across the titles penned by pretty mediore writers like Duggan. It was worth losing Hickman if they planned to keep Krakoa running a few more years but it wasn't worth it for one just one extra year.

I suspect very strongly the plan was to keep it running for several more years but Brevoort coming on as editor in chief clearly changed all that as he's been quite open about not being the biggest fan of the new premise and favoured the more classic setting.
 
Hard disagree, I'm sorry. I would read a zillion more years of the Krakoan Age (Leah's X-Factor in particular could have and should have gone on for decades). There was so much more left to tell.

Same. The issue has been having very few writers and editors skilled enough to keep Krakoa focused and evolving after Hickman left. They definitely should have ditched out a few ideas, ressurrection needed to go and Sins of Sinister gave them the perfect out to do it.

Krakoa is a very clever concept but you can't have basic, dogshit writers like Duggan working in it or editors who can't even seem to keep the basic rules and concepts straight across their titles.

The political depths of Krakoa were astonishing, both on the island and on an international level. The Quiet Council was a brilliant idea and Immortal X-Men was such a unique and compelling read.
 
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