Your unpopular pop opinions

I actually did an essay on this at uni (and earned my first High Distinction fff), arguing that whilst the Spice Girls clearly helped young girls understand their identities/the meaning of girl power, overall their message was built on commodity feminism (using feminism to sell to consumers in any way they could) and it was largely disingenuous. They definitely commercialised the message but the 'Girl Power' phenomenon did not start with the Spice Girls as people always suggest. They really capitalised on it well though.

Duck reacts incoming.

Four years before Shampoo, Australian girl group Grirlfirend had a song ‘Girl’s Life’, which contained the chorus lyric “when you got girl power, you keep on getting offers by the hour”. Though it was actually a cover ddd.
 
The thing is that, simply on the basis of their music, I don't believe they would've been nearly as big as they were. I haven't even watched any of their music videos until recently (because they are blocked in my country) so I'm clearly missing out but, from what I could notice, their personalities and looks were prioritized from the very start so no wonder the audience and media picked that up, especially when it was executed so well, and it most definitely helped with public being fascinated by and falling in love with them.
And this directly ties in with the nostalgia bias, which is very much a thing and there's nothing wrong about it, we all have artists and songs that fall into such category.

You realise this could apply to pretty much any big pop artist/group in history. Like yes, personality and looks are prioritised and yes, if the public were to ignore literally everything but the songs themselves none would be as big as they are/were.
 
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You realise this could apply to pretty much any big pop artist/group in history. Like yes, personality and looks are prioritised and yes, if the public were to ignore literally everything but the songs themselves none would be as big as they are/were.
That's true (not in all cases of course) but what I was trying to say is that approach resulting in such popularity, iconic moments, fond memories etc. must've influenced people to think the songs were/are better when compared to other groups.

For example, there's a flop girl group i5 (short for 'International 5') - each of the five members being from a different country, you see the pattern. They released only one album in 2000 and disbanded less than a year later.



A few filler tracks aside, this album is almost bulletproof and I consider it much stronger than any of the ones by Spice Girls. And you can notice the concept of the group and the sonic direction are very similar ("Scream Shout" is literally their version of "Spice Up Your Life") but they had no particular promotion, no music videos and, as a result, nothing they released charted.


Though I must say that "Viva Forever" is a masterpiece and might be the best girl group song of all time.
 
I think Tinashe is good, but I don't get the intense worship she gets on this forum whereas I do understand it with some other acts.
 
I think Tinashe is good, but I don't get the intense worship she gets on this forum whereas I do understand it with some other acts.

It's the underdog story, really. She was mismanaged for years. She's done songs that sound like instant smashes (see: half of Songs for You), yet they never did anything chart-wise. She's also been very creative in the past 10 years, despite all the setbacks. Great performer, knows how to make a sick beat, and also fantastic with slower/emotional moments too. You can't really not root for her.
I don't think the fans blindly stan her though. I've seen people say it when she doesn't hit the spot like she usually does.
 
It's the underdog story, really. She was mismanaged for years. She's done songs that sound like instant smashes (see: half of Songs for You), yet they never did anything chart-wise. She's also been very creative in the past 10 years, despite all the setbacks. Great performer, knows how to make a sick beat, and also fantastic with slower/emotional moments too. You can't really not root for her.
I don't think the fans blindly stan her though. I've seen people say it when she doesn't hit the spot like she usually does.
I do get that she's very good at all the things you've said. I guess it's just the intensity of it that throws me for a loop. But as you said, the underdog element is probably what tops off the praise.
 
Anti is just not good. Probably her worst album.

(Kiss it Better is great though)
I'm so glad I'm not the only one, it's complete dirge.

Anyway here's mine for today - I really don't like Billie Eilish's new album (aside from Lunch which bops) and I didn't like Happier Than Ever either. I want more of the You Should See Me in a Crown bops and less of the snoozefests. Her first album remains her best record.
 
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Wtf is a bop if Birds of a Feather or L'amour aren't one?

Wanna know what I told herrr?
With her hand on my shoulderrr
You were so mediocreee
And we’re so glad it’s over nowwwwww


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I do get that she's very good at all the things you've said. I guess it's just the intensity of it that throws me for a loop. But as you said, the underdog element is probably what tops off the praise.

I think the most important part is that she emerged the same year as Drake and The Weeknd and, like them, has been prolific ever since.

Unlike them (both of who are undeniable pop behemoths) she has never had a mainstream breakthrough despite her artistic highs being as high as theirs, her bops bopping as hard as theirs and her output being much more consistently good than theirs.

She deserves her flowers and a hefty payday, basically!
 
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Would it be controversial to say that Good Girl Gone Bad: Reloaded is a bit shit and I would've preferred that they extended the original album's era with additional singles instead of releasing such a half-hearted re-release?

I do understand the necessity of a re-release to extend an album's shelf life, but none of the new material was particularly good, imo. Seriously, "Breakin' Dishes," "Push Up On Me" and "Sell Me Candy" are infinitely better than "Take A Bow" and "Disturbia" and her discography wouldn't be any lesser with the exclusion of the latter two. I genuinely think that "Disturbia" is shit and was only a hit due to Rihanna's star power.
 
Probably not an unpopular opinion, but why has Madonna not changed her hair colour/style much/at all since about 2007? She used to be known for regularly changing her hair colour/length etc., but the long blonde hair thing has been done to death now. I thought she looked better with darker hair… or, god forbid, she let it go grey.
 

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